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Griffin iTrip FM Transmitter for iPod: $32.95

I just received my iTrip yesterday.  It is a cleaver little unit that fits into the headphone plug.  It is powered by the iPod and configured using software that you load onto your computer and then onto the iPod as a playlist.  Then using the iPod you can select what frequency (FM) that you want to use.  You can also turn off the blue LED on the iTrip, which I found to be annoying and quickly turned it off. 

I use a PC and didn’t have any trouble with the software load.  Nor have I had trouble with the iPod since.  I need more time to evaluate the FM signal, but from my early tests I would guess that I’m going to be very pleased with the sound.  I’m not sure if the sound will be a good as the direct-wired tape adapter that I use in my other car, but it did sound about as good as any commericial FM channel last night.  The transmitted signal was clearly strong enough as I sat in my Jeep.  I doubt that other types of vehicles will have trouble receiving the signal. 

Now I need to figure out what to do about my case since this iTrip sticks up about 3/4 inch higher. 

Anyway, I’m giving it a thumbs up recommendation.

I’m surprised that the iTrip doesn’t work with the new iPods—don’t they have the same headphone jack?  Maybe it’s a software issue.  The firewire port is not actually used.  All communication/signalling occurs via the headphone jack.  There are two platic tabs that fit into the firewire hole, but these just keep the iTrip aligned with the iPod.  Indeed, to charge the iPod while using the iTrip the directions state that you simply turn the iTrip and install it so that the firewire port is exposed.

Posted by Tom on June 17, 2003 at 1:27 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Someone send me the US v2.0 Firmware and ill do some prodding around to see if it is fixable or not, via firmware.

Posted by Alex Stapleton on June 17, 2003 at 1:26 PM (CDT)

iPod clone spotted, will Apple pursue?

You’re = YOU ARE


It’s = IT IS


Fucking retards.

Posted by Dumbshits on June 17, 2003 at 1:26 PM (CDT)

Griffin iTrip FM Transmitter for iPod: $32.95

Jeese! Minimum of $8 for shipping. Why don’t they offer Priority Mail for $4?

Posted by iTodd on June 17, 2003 at 1:23 PM (CDT)

Griffin iTrip FM Transmitter for iPod: $32.95

Does anybody have information on a timeline for the *new* iTrip units (for the new iPod models) ?

Thanks for any details!

Posted by Tim on June 17, 2003 at 12:53 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Except for the severe overreaction I agree with Tony. Apple-lovers have always been unequivocal content with their Apple stuff, a bit of (self-)criticism would be to their credit. When a product has a signifigant flaw there has to be discussion (and a solution), especially when the flaw is ridiculously bound to frontiers.

Posted by Socrates on June 17, 2003 at 12:52 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Slightly loud version of events tony, but none the less true… (pardon my punn, hehe)

Posted by b0f on June 17, 2003 at 12:51 PM (CDT)

Open Letter to Apple Concerning the Mistreatment of Apple Customers

Reorx, lol, I think it is funny how that has turned out, but rest assured at least Apple WILL fix your bug issues, so don’t worry too much about that. When is a totally different story :)

Posted by zync on June 17, 2003 at 12:30 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

I don’t understand some of the peoples comments regarding this issue…

If you pay

Posted by Tony on June 17, 2003 at 10:35 AM (CDT)

"Old and New iPods, Side-by-Side" Review

I just bought the 20GB model (the old one) for $294 because 15 gigs is just a little too little, and 30 gigs is a little too $$$. 20 gigs—as Goldilocks would put it—is just right.

I was discouraged from the new ones because of the “pops” between tracks, and I don’t feel any need for a dock or some of the (minor) software embellisments. I do suspect, however, that updates to come (2.1 or 3.0) might leave me behind.

And let’s be clear—the old models just look better. There’s something ordinary and plastic-y about the new ones.

Posted by Gaston on June 17, 2003 at 10:34 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

To be a bit more concise about why i don’t like this post. Its flagrant scare mongering. “Oh my god the iPod has a “low” output volume i better get an Archos/Jukebox instead!!!” Telling us not to buy an iPod in the EU merely because of the volume level is pretty rediculous. Telling us that the volume level is capped, and that some people may have problems with that however, is acceptable.

Posted by Alex Stapleton on June 17, 2003 at 9:58 AM (CDT)

"Old and New iPods, Side-by-Side" Review

Battery life aside, what about all of the “other” problems of the new iPods being discussed in numerous forums? Would it not be better at this point to buy an older iPod, and wait till Apple works the kinks out of the first generation of new iPods?

Posted by Jeffrey Mindich on June 17, 2003 at 9:46 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Sorry if i was a bit rude. Just people get so upset about the tiniest little problem with the iPod these days its rediculous. If the volumes too low to listen to certain types of music, in certain places, there are ways around it. It’s not something thats a really huge problem that you can’t learn to live with and still be perfectly happy with your iPod.

Firmware update!? “Apple technicians told us on the phone that this cap is irreversible.” You say. If its irreversible….what the hell is a firmware update going to do?

Your argument to return the iPod appears to be based on the iPod being advertised as a day to day MP3 player, and it not being that because of its supposedly pathetic output volume. This is something that is based on no legal grounding. They never advertise the iPod as being anything but what it is. However you do have the right to return it if it does not suit, as you stated. I don’t doubt Apple will take it back, just that they have no obligation to.

Classical music in loud places, you heathen. Get some isolating cans at least :)

Posted by Alex Stapleton on June 17, 2003 at 8:45 AM (CDT)

Apple: iPod (with Dock Connector) Manuals Posted

Weiro’s. The manual hasn’t been translated yet in e.g Dutch, Italian, Traditional Chinese, although they are listed.

Posted by Socrates on June 17, 2003 at 7:44 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Although I do not own an iPod yet and thus have not been able to experience its volume, I’m quite worried about this volume capping in Europe. Isn’t it just madness that there is such a thing? Why wouldn’t Europeans have the right to enjoy the same loudness as Americans do? I agree with King Aragorn that this could be a heck of a problem when listening to classical music in somewhat noisy environments. Bye bye Ravel, Apple won’t let me listen to the first ten minutes of your Bol

Posted by Socrates on June 17, 2003 at 7:39 AM (CDT)

"Old and New iPods, Side-by-Side" Review

After using a new iPod as much as possible over the last few days, I have found that the battery life is not that of the old iPods (as I expected, as Alex points out, due to the size).  But as long as it can get me through a coast to coast flight including airport time (about 6 hours), that’s good enough for me.

Posted by Christian Cantrell on June 17, 2003 at 7:29 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Thanks Drewpy, that confirms what I had found when testing the dock-out in comparison with the ipod-out.

King Aragorn - if you heard no difference when using the dock-out in the car, then perhaps your car audio setup isn’t right? I’m not trying to be insulting, just stating a fact. When I compare the volume of output from the dock and the ipod its astonishing the difference it makes.

One thing though, when I first plugged the speakers into the dock, I didn’t push the jack in all the way. This caused the sound to be very low, and distorted the sound in such a was as to make it sound like the music was coming from the end of a long corridor (ie faint and echo-y).

I will test the dock output in my car this evening, but I see now reason why it should perform any differently there in comparison to my speakers at home…

Posted by DaN13L on June 17, 2003 at 6:42 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

How can it cost more for Apple to let us non-french-euro’s? They already distribute it to america, and when an update is released they will have one that detects where you are. Since it has to do this anyway, surly it would be a short job to change which category some countries are in (low volume or not).

Line-out is definatly line-out.. I generated a wave, encoded it into mp3 at 192 (100% normalized) put it on the ipod, measured the output of the line-out socket (the only one, which is on the dock) and it was genuine line-out (one volt peak to peak). It is defiatly not capped in any way shape or form.

Posted by Drewpy on June 17, 2003 at 4:37 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Yes DannieB, and that is why apple will never meet its full potential.

Brett—I see your point also, but I don

Posted by b0f on June 17, 2003 at 2:49 AM (CDT)

"Old and New iPods, Side-by-Side" Review

The battery isn’t inferior, it’s just smaller. Which means it has a shorter battery life, but density to energy wise its probably better, if not equal. Besides 6-8 hours aint all that bad really. Can always get the addon battery pack :)

Posted by Alex Stapleton on June 17, 2003 at 2:41 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

If you 3rd gen iPodders are not happy with your toys, then complain to Apple. As many of us 1st & 2nd gen iPodders have found, your complaints will go unheard and your posts will be deleted. 

All I can say is Wah Waah! :p

Posted by DannieB on June 17, 2003 at 1:48 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Hi Brett!

Thanks fou your comment. I do see your point.

What I suggest was meant to be more like that: Apple is going to release a Firmware Updater sooner then later because of the USB 2.0 support. All they would have to do is make the EU version of that updater and the US version just as they planned.
now they simply do NOT prevent the US updater (which can only be downloaded from the US website of course) to be applied to the EU iPod and letting it over-write the old EU firmware.
—> voila!
It’s the users fault if he does so cause Apple does tell EU users only to use the EU updater.

Infact, it will even be easier for Apple, cause the US updater will not have to have a checking-routine on whether the EU or the US firmware is on the iPod.

Not that difficult, you see?

kind regards


Posted by King Aragorn on June 17, 2003 at 1:39 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

All those activities and the costs associated with them are not going to cause iPod sales to increase, so why should they do it?  They gain nothing.

That’s the bottom line for Apple.

Posted by Brett on June 17, 2003 at 1:29 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Who’s going to develop and test that app to remove the cap?  Do you realize how expensive testing is, especially when you take into account the multitude of configurations for Windows based PCs?  Tech and customer service reps are going to have to be trained, that costs money as well.  Also, what about the costs associated wtih investigating this problem in order to see if it can be fixed?  Marketing collateral is going to have to be tweaked, that isn’t inconsequential.  I’m sure the EU will want it to be re-certified again which again costs money.

Add up the costs of all those activities and it turns out that costs are not inconsequential, nor is it a “simple fix”. 

All those activities cut into Apple’s margin.  If they want to raise the price of iPods in the Eurpean market and not pass it off to any others, I have no problem with it.

Imagination isn’t required.  I work in the tech industry and make these kinds of decisions on a daily basis.  Business in this industry is about doing the most you can within the timeframe allotted and with limited resources while doing your damndest to increase your margins.

Posted by Brett on June 17, 2003 at 1:25 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Ok Guys!

Some of you are getting the point, others don’t. And there is no need for being unfriendly or rude infact, maybe you shoud think about your manners a bit. If this problem doesn’t bother you, why are you posting anyway.

—-> Brett
About “understanding” vs “studying”:
What about providing a downloadable updater that simply removes the volume-cap? That would NOT interfer with French law and it would NOT cost that much. So please, try to use your imagination and don’t tell me I don’t understand. Business is all about what can be done, and not about what can’t.

—-> Alex
Come on, can’t you be more friendly?
Normally I don’t reply to posts like that, but why not: infact, I pasted both studies, and that I did quite good. But that doesn’t contribute to a solution.

My arguement for returning is not that “utter crap” as you might think. I do understand that you have a problem getting the background-meaning of it, but belive me, it works.

—-> Daniel
Thanks for your advise, but yes, I know the difference about “headphone jack” and “line out”. I took the dock to my car stereo and tried it with the dock (hence “line out”) as well.

***** One Mistake I made:

I have to admit, I made ONE mistake in writing this article: turning up the volume on your stereo DOES not lead to sound distortions! Only turning up the volume via iTunes getinfo command causes these distortions (in some tracks).
Sorry, my fault. Appologies for that.

**** low volume CAN really be a pain:
For those who worried about my hearing. Thanks for your sympathy, but my hearing is good.
Think about that: About 20% of the music on my iPod is not Rock/Pop, but Classic. There are many classic tracks that have very low-volume parts in it. It is always (!) difficult to listen to classic music when your are in noise places. The only way you can get around that is by turning up the volume. But on my iPod, that doesn’t work, cause it is capped.
You might say that doesn’t matter.
I say, I spent Eur 460 for it and to me it matters.

I thank you all for your comments and thoughts. Even if some didn’t show the politeness they should have, I do appreciate all of them.


King Aragorn

Posted by King Aragorn on June 17, 2003 at 12:45 AM (CDT)

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