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"Old and New iPods, Side-by-Side" Review

I had some requests for iPod pictures, so I added a couple to the review.  The wheel on the new iPod is pretty washed out, but since there are no moving parts, there isn’t enough variance between it and the rest of the face of the iPod for the camera to really pick it out.  And it doesn’t help that they are all white.  The picture of the two side by side shows how much more rounded the new iPods are, but also that they really aren’t as much smaller as one might assume.

Posted by Christian Cantrell on June 16, 2003 at 4:22 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

So is there a method of doing lineout with the 2G model?

Posted by nate on June 16, 2003 at 3:50 PM (CDT)

Open Letter to Apple Concerning the Mistreatment of Apple Customers

Billy, unlike a childish little kid playing many games like showdown, I happened to do other things during my teenage life. I only played Soul Calibur because I bowled and we’d play that before league play, but I much preferred pool. That iPod was paid for by me, if you’d like to see the receipt for it with my debit card number on it and my debit card itself I’d show you if that would prove it but I have nothing to prove to you, especially since I’m not going to just post a graphic of my card on the net because of identity fraud, however I believe the receipt does have my name on it so when I get my digital camera back I’ll take a picture of it. My parents pay for jack squat because they don’t have college educations and lots of money just so you know. Oh and BTW you’re an ass. Do you honestly think some internet twit will really hurt my feelings. Call me a whiney baby, call me a brat. Ask anyone who knows me, like Bob. I just want what I pay for because I don’t have lots of money to spend but I do pay for every damn thing I own, so instead of sitting at home on your ass, why don’t you do something productive so you don’t have to complain where you don’t belong. And, BTW, if you think I don’t work, remember I post on here usually at 2:00 AM eastern, after I get home from work. Don’t ever come on here and talk about someone as if you know them. How dare you say that about me.

ID, I’m also angry about the bugs. Like when I go to play a song and the one after it plays.

Posted by zync on June 16, 2003 at 3:41 PM (CDT)

Mac: iLyric 0.7 Released

You guys should download the LyricTracker client. That works pretty well and it has iPod support.

Posted by kainjow on June 16, 2003 at 3:13 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

I’ve noticed my ipod has a very low sound level (i’m french).
I’m just planing to install the US firmware as soosn as it is available.

Posted by mushkin on June 16, 2003 at 3:10 PM (CDT)

Zip your iPod, new case announced

I’ve already cancelled the order.  and I will just buy it off the store in HK then.

Posted by ywwong on June 16, 2003 at 2:48 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Somehow i feel reading about an elephant. But it’s only a mouse, and a very little one. I’m Swiss and attorney, but nevertheless there are to many “!!!” in this article.

Owned a 20gig iPod (actually my girlfriend’s now), bought a 15gig and have no volume problem at all. And we use our “Dr

Posted by Fex on June 16, 2003 at 2:26 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Does the iPodlounge front page not have any sort of editor that checks whiny nonsense such as this anyway?

Posted by Alex Stapleton on June 16, 2003 at 2:25 PM (CDT)

Open Letter to Apple Concerning the Mistreatment of Apple Customers

This type of discussion has always seemed off-target to me…

I’ve had my G2 20GB WiniPod for nearly a year now.

Since Apple’s implementation of OTG PlayList is so flawed as to be nearly useless (if you don’t understand what I mean, try reading some of the threads in the forum!), there is actually very little functionality in the v2 firmware that I find desirable, though I do like the updateable ratings.

In other words, I can live without having the v2 firmware translated for my G2 iPod.

What I don’t understand, is why I seem to be the only WiPod owner who is upset by Apple’s failure to fix the WiPod firmware bugs?!?!

When I bought my WiPod, I fully expected it to have the same functionality as the MiPods.  Imagine my surprise when I discovered that not only were some functions not working correctly on my WiPod, but some had been deliberately disabled!  But I assumed that Apple had simply rushed the WiPods out the door early, and would fix these issues with a later firmware upgrade.  Now I find that not only has nearly a year gone by, but Apple has actually replaced my iPod with a newer model.  It now seems like Apple had no intention of ever fixing these bugs! (For a complete list of these bugs, please do a search on the Windows iPod forum)

I really don’t understand why more WiPod owners aren’t upset by this betrayal.

I do believe in “Voting with my Wallet”, so, unless Apple fixes this situation, the iPod will be the first and last Apple product I ever own.  And since I still have a couple of weeks left on my warranty, I’m considering trying to get Apple to either fix my iPod or refund my money!

Now that’s a petition I could get behind!

Posted by IDSmoker on June 16, 2003 at 1:33 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Having just read this article, I decided to test out the line out function. Let me just jog your memory from your article :

“But not only the headphone jack is capped, also the line out: That means, that if you connect your iPod to a stereo at home or in the car, you have to turn the volume of that stereo way up what in many cases is causing sound-distortions.”

I know for a fact you’re misinformed. Simply plugging the car jack into the headphone socket, does not make it a line out, its still a headphone jack, jack (sorry, couldn’t resist that).

The line-out is actually on the dock. Having taken a set of speakers, and connected the up to first the HEADPHONE jack, then the line out, the difference in volume is astonishing.

For in-car audio, I would suggest the purchase of a second dock (or use your existing one), and connect the car to that. You don’t need to supply power to the dock, simply having the iPod in the dock and plugging the car audio jack into the line out socket is enough.

I’m sure it won’t be long before some bright spark creates a cable that plugs into the dock, and has a headphone jack on it, thus circumventing the euro volume cap. And hey, if anyone reads this and does it I want a cut! ;)

I’m perfectly happy with my 30gig iPod, AND I traded in a 20gig older model to get it.

Posted by Daniel Woolstencroft on June 16, 2003 at 12:55 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

i bought mine in holland and it works just normal..
it’s as loud as my old iPod with the old software..

and it’s as loud as my old discman..

don’t have any problems in the subway or in the train.

Posted by HS-L on June 16, 2003 at 12:54 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

As Alex says, if you can’t hear the iPod at max volume, then either you’ll be ruining your hearing, or your earphones are lousy!

I have a pair of low-impedance phones, and I can’t turn the volume up beyond about a third…  In fact, with those in, I wish there was more control in the very bottom end of the scale!

Posted by Gidds in UK on June 16, 2003 at 11:48 AM (CDT)

Dell delays iPod shipping

Steve wrote:
“They sell it at the best price around, received many more orders than they could possibly fill, but don’t make this out to be thier fault.”

YES IT IS THEIR FAULT!  They have forecasting methods that will tell them if they price @ X, they will sell X.  They priced it at the discount FULLY KNOWING they could not fill the orders and would dissapoint a lot of customers with a long wait…

For those that got one on time, it was a good deal…but for Dell, it was not worth the negative impression of being out of stock…

Someone at Dell probably got an A$$ chewing for pricing it this way…

Posted by Rover on June 16, 2003 at 11:43 AM (CDT)

iSkin for iPod 5GB and 10GB for $10

I tried for fifteen minutes and on four different browsers to place an order at the Lajo site. It is one of the most confusingly designed store sites I have ever encountered. I’m buying covers from someone else.

Posted by Doug Adams on June 16, 2003 at 11:37 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

The iPod is plenty loud enough with ear bud headphones. If you can’t hear it on a bus, or train, your either on some increadibly loud bus/train, or you have totally screwed up hearing. I have plugged it into my stereo, and yes it was a bit quiet, but turning the voume up a bit did the trick just fine. If your getting distortion from turning the volume up, you probably have a shity stereo/amp or somesuch.

Your argument to say to apple to get them to take your iPod back is utter crap. They do not say anything of the output volume on their webpage. They are not advertising anything about its output volume. The EU iPod is useable like any other MP3 player in that you can plug it into an Hi-Fi if you so desire, yes you have to turn the volume up, but so what? If it distorts, get a better stereo.

I imagine they hard limited it because firmware is rather hard to lock to a specific country without country specific hardware.

Studied law and economics did you, dont suppose you passed by any chance?

iPod owners are so bloody whiny these days.

Posted by Alex Stapleton on June 16, 2003 at 11:33 AM (CDT)

iSkin for iPod 5GB and 10GB for $10

Someone should tell
about the price change.  I could not order from and still has the original
price.  :(

Posted by elinks on June 16, 2003 at 11:22 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

I can tell you that from a cost/benefit standpoint, it probably is not possible to justify an iPod specifically for the French market.

Maintaining separate skus and the added support etc… all add to the cost of the product or cut into Apple’s margin.  Guess who is going to lose?  I don’t think the rest of the world wants to bear those costs to satisfy the regulations of the French government.

Studying Economics and understanding business are two separate things.  When you finish a graduate degree you’ll learn that.  Save the resume for job interviews.

Posted by Brett on June 16, 2003 at 11:21 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

I’m sorry, but the line out is NOT capped. It is genuine line-put, the same as all other device’s line out. It is one volt peak to peak, which is the definition of line level.

I have a 3rd Generation iPod in the UK, I use it fine on the london tube system every weekend. I would like it to be a little louder, don’t get me wrong, but it’s not the end of the world.

Posted by Drewpy on June 16, 2003 at 10:59 AM (CDT)

Play random MP3s on iPod and avoid iTrip files

i have an idea…not being able to try this with the griffin files, but, what i did is made a smart playlist for all songs with either no rating or at least 2 stars, and limited it to certain genres or something to keep it similar…as the songs play, if i rate one 1 star, it drops out of the playlist!

Posted by ian meyer on June 16, 2003 at 10:32 AM (CDT)

Speck Products Announces Several New iPod Cases

does anyone know when theyre going to ship?  I keep emailing the guys over there but they never respond. Its been like 5 emails already….

Posted by Edwin on June 16, 2003 at 10:04 AM (CDT)

iPod 10GB 2G at BestBuy $199

I actually found one remaining at the Smyrna location this Saturday and promptly picked it up.


Posted by michael on June 16, 2003 at 8:35 AM (CDT)

iPod 10GB 2G at BestBuy $199

In Atlanta the Mall Of Georgia Best Buy had 2 10gb 2nd Gen iPods for $199 your best bet is to call…

“Jeff ... called around to a few of the BBs here in Atlanta, and none of them seem to have the 2G 10gb ipods for $199.  One store had one 2G left, but it was priced at $299.  Can you tell me the store where you found this deal?

Posted by Jeff J Jawk in Atlanta on June 16, 2003 at 8:32 AM (CDT)

Three FM Transmitters Reviewed

can anyone tell me hpw the itrip works i can’t figure it out?  thank you

Posted by Levon on June 16, 2003 at 5:51 AM (CDT)

Zip your iPod, new case announced,, are all our sites, this info will be posted here 1st.  Our site is for resellers mainly and they look to it to see what they can order and the features of each product. When we start shipping we will post now shipping on it

Posted by Lajo Cymbalski on June 16, 2003 at 4:32 AM (CDT)

Mac: iLyric 0.7 Released

Now don’t get me wrong, because I love the way this app is shaping up… However it doesn’t find songs very well. Like, really really common songs and it doesn’t find them. Like I have a fair few beatles tracks, only one of them worked. It couldnt find, Yesterday, Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, Yellow Submarine.

It does find some songs though, it just seems that it can’t be putting the info into the search engine very well, otherwise it would find more.

Posted by Drewpy on June 16, 2003 at 3:50 AM (CDT)

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