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iPod 10GB 2G at BestBuy $199

Hey folks!
Where can I still buy a 2nd generation ipod of 10 or 20 Gb, I live in New York, maybe someone has an idea!!!

Posted by nils on June 17, 2003 at 4:52 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Th writer is correct, the output of the new iPeods is lower than any other personal stereo I have ever had. It is also very expensive for what it does. No-one should be suggesting that iPod buyers go to even more expense just to hear the thing in the same situation other personal stereos take in their stride.
I returned my new iPod weeks ago as it was too quiet, both the headphones and the line out. I could not wait for Apple to fix it, and judging by my previous experience of Apple’s customer service I was pretty sure that they wouldn’t bother anyway.
I am sticking with my old iPod with the old version of the software until a decent MP3 player comes along with a headphone out and a line that have normal volume levels.

For me the EU iPod failed 50% of the time in it’s main function: playing audible music.

I am glad to see that someone is making a fuss about it at last. Apple should not be able to get away with the way they treat their (strangely) loyal customers.

Posted by Staff on June 17, 2003 at 4:20 PM (CDT)

Bose Announces QuietComfort 2 headphones

I tried these on my recent trip to the US, and I don’t know if the QC2 is as good as theQC1’s.

Sure the new design is far better as they do fold flat and reduce the size of bag you have to tote around, but whether the demo models were low on battery power or not, I just felt the amount of sound the 2’s cut out was less than the old model.

The point for me for getting the Bose would be to cut out high/low noise AND speech - there is nothing worse than sitting on a noisy train or somewhere and you get the loudmouth on his mobile sharing his conversation with 3 other countries!!

But from my tests of the Bose in store the speech can still be heard - annoyingly clearly as well. They would be great for eavesdropping conversations if that is your want. But I think after using them for a short time my Sony EX70’s cut out more noise and speech.

I know I said I’d have them on my shopping list but I think I may strike them off it for now.

Posted by MadPict in UK on June 17, 2003 at 3:40 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Hmmm, I’ve noticed that my 3rd gen 10GB iPod produces wierd effects when the graphics equalizer is used, especially at higher volumes. If perform tests (lineout, headphone etc) don’t forget to disable it.

It would be great if iPod could use the bass expansion algorythm that Sony devices use. My MiniDisc player etc sound really excellent with high end cans (Sennheiser 590’s) but the iPod is washed out, and the eq settings introduce unwanted distortion. Yeah, I love my iPod ... but i’ll love it even more when the volume/eq issues are sorted out.

Posted by Carl on June 17, 2003 at 3:27 PM (CDT)

Mac: iLyric 0.7 Released

Tried iLyric 0.7 and I think it’s great! It found 24 of the 32 songs I searched for (little slow searching maybee).
One annoying thing (especially in slow songs) is that you have to scroll the wheel on the iPod to prevent it from returning to the “play-screen” after some seconds…

Is it impossible to make the lyrics scroll automaticly with the song…? Couldn’t such information be stored in the file?

Posted by Kristian on June 17, 2003 at 2:34 PM (CDT)

Griffin iTrip FM Transmitter for iPod: $32.95

I just received my iTrip yesterday.  It is a cleaver little unit that fits into the headphone plug.  It is powered by the iPod and configured using software that you load onto your computer and then onto the iPod as a playlist.  Then using the iPod you can select what frequency (FM) that you want to use.  You can also turn off the blue LED on the iTrip, which I found to be annoying and quickly turned it off. 

I use a PC and didn’t have any trouble with the software load.  Nor have I had trouble with the iPod since.  I need more time to evaluate the FM signal, but from my early tests I would guess that I’m going to be very pleased with the sound.  I’m not sure if the sound will be a good as the direct-wired tape adapter that I use in my other car, but it did sound about as good as any commericial FM channel last night.  The transmitted signal was clearly strong enough as I sat in my Jeep.  I doubt that other types of vehicles will have trouble receiving the signal. 

Now I need to figure out what to do about my case since this iTrip sticks up about 3/4 inch higher. 

Anyway, I’m giving it a thumbs up recommendation.

I’m surprised that the iTrip doesn’t work with the new iPods—don’t they have the same headphone jack?  Maybe it’s a software issue.  The firewire port is not actually used.  All communication/signalling occurs via the headphone jack.  There are two platic tabs that fit into the firewire hole, but these just keep the iTrip aligned with the iPod.  Indeed, to charge the iPod while using the iTrip the directions state that you simply turn the iTrip and install it so that the firewire port is exposed.

Posted by Tom on June 17, 2003 at 1:27 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Someone send me the US v2.0 Firmware and ill do some prodding around to see if it is fixable or not, via firmware.

Posted by Alex Stapleton on June 17, 2003 at 1:26 PM (CDT)

iPod clone spotted, will Apple pursue?

You’re = YOU ARE


It’s = IT IS


Fucking retards.

Posted by Dumbshits on June 17, 2003 at 1:26 PM (CDT)

Griffin iTrip FM Transmitter for iPod: $32.95

Jeese! Minimum of $8 for shipping. Why don’t they offer Priority Mail for $4?

Posted by iTodd on June 17, 2003 at 1:23 PM (CDT)

Griffin iTrip FM Transmitter for iPod: $32.95

Does anybody have information on a timeline for the *new* iTrip units (for the new iPod models) ?

Thanks for any details!

Posted by Tim on June 17, 2003 at 12:53 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Except for the severe overreaction I agree with Tony. Apple-lovers have always been unequivocal content with their Apple stuff, a bit of (self-)criticism would be to their credit. When a product has a signifigant flaw there has to be discussion (and a solution), especially when the flaw is ridiculously bound to frontiers.

Posted by Socrates on June 17, 2003 at 12:52 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Slightly loud version of events tony, but none the less true… (pardon my punn, hehe)

Posted by b0f on June 17, 2003 at 12:51 PM (CDT)

Open Letter to Apple Concerning the Mistreatment of Apple Customers

Reorx, lol, I think it is funny how that has turned out, but rest assured at least Apple WILL fix your bug issues, so don’t worry too much about that. When is a totally different story :)

Posted by zync on June 17, 2003 at 12:30 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

I don’t understand some of the peoples comments regarding this issue…

If you pay

Posted by Tony on June 17, 2003 at 10:35 AM (CDT)

"Old and New iPods, Side-by-Side" Review

I just bought the 20GB model (the old one) for $294 because 15 gigs is just a little too little, and 30 gigs is a little too $$$. 20 gigs—as Goldilocks would put it—is just right.

I was discouraged from the new ones because of the “pops” between tracks, and I don’t feel any need for a dock or some of the (minor) software embellisments. I do suspect, however, that updates to come (2.1 or 3.0) might leave me behind.

And let’s be clear—the old models just look better. There’s something ordinary and plastic-y about the new ones.

Posted by Gaston on June 17, 2003 at 10:34 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

To be a bit more concise about why i don’t like this post. Its flagrant scare mongering. “Oh my god the iPod has a “low” output volume i better get an Archos/Jukebox instead!!!” Telling us not to buy an iPod in the EU merely because of the volume level is pretty rediculous. Telling us that the volume level is capped, and that some people may have problems with that however, is acceptable.

Posted by Alex Stapleton on June 17, 2003 at 9:58 AM (CDT)

"Old and New iPods, Side-by-Side" Review

Battery life aside, what about all of the “other” problems of the new iPods being discussed in numerous forums? Would it not be better at this point to buy an older iPod, and wait till Apple works the kinks out of the first generation of new iPods?

Posted by Jeffrey Mindich on June 17, 2003 at 9:46 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Sorry if i was a bit rude. Just people get so upset about the tiniest little problem with the iPod these days its rediculous. If the volumes too low to listen to certain types of music, in certain places, there are ways around it. It’s not something thats a really huge problem that you can’t learn to live with and still be perfectly happy with your iPod.

Firmware update!? “Apple technicians told us on the phone that this cap is irreversible.” You say. If its irreversible….what the hell is a firmware update going to do?

Your argument to return the iPod appears to be based on the iPod being advertised as a day to day MP3 player, and it not being that because of its supposedly pathetic output volume. This is something that is based on no legal grounding. They never advertise the iPod as being anything but what it is. However you do have the right to return it if it does not suit, as you stated. I don’t doubt Apple will take it back, just that they have no obligation to.

Classical music in loud places, you heathen. Get some isolating cans at least :)

Posted by Alex Stapleton on June 17, 2003 at 8:45 AM (CDT)

Apple: iPod (with Dock Connector) Manuals Posted

Weiro’s. The manual hasn’t been translated yet in e.g Dutch, Italian, Traditional Chinese, although they are listed.

Posted by Socrates on June 17, 2003 at 7:44 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Although I do not own an iPod yet and thus have not been able to experience its volume, I’m quite worried about this volume capping in Europe. Isn’t it just madness that there is such a thing? Why wouldn’t Europeans have the right to enjoy the same loudness as Americans do? I agree with King Aragorn that this could be a heck of a problem when listening to classical music in somewhat noisy environments. Bye bye Ravel, Apple won’t let me listen to the first ten minutes of your Bol

Posted by Socrates on June 17, 2003 at 7:39 AM (CDT)

"Old and New iPods, Side-by-Side" Review

After using a new iPod as much as possible over the last few days, I have found that the battery life is not that of the old iPods (as I expected, as Alex points out, due to the size).  But as long as it can get me through a coast to coast flight including airport time (about 6 hours), that’s good enough for me.

Posted by Christian Cantrell on June 17, 2003 at 7:29 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Thanks Drewpy, that confirms what I had found when testing the dock-out in comparison with the ipod-out.

King Aragorn - if you heard no difference when using the dock-out in the car, then perhaps your car audio setup isn’t right? I’m not trying to be insulting, just stating a fact. When I compare the volume of output from the dock and the ipod its astonishing the difference it makes.

One thing though, when I first plugged the speakers into the dock, I didn’t push the jack in all the way. This caused the sound to be very low, and distorted the sound in such a was as to make it sound like the music was coming from the end of a long corridor (ie faint and echo-y).

I will test the dock output in my car this evening, but I see now reason why it should perform any differently there in comparison to my speakers at home…

Posted by DaN13L on June 17, 2003 at 6:42 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

How can it cost more for Apple to let us non-french-euro’s? They already distribute it to america, and when an update is released they will have one that detects where you are. Since it has to do this anyway, surly it would be a short job to change which category some countries are in (low volume or not).

Line-out is definatly line-out.. I generated a wave, encoded it into mp3 at 192 (100% normalized) put it on the ipod, measured the output of the line-out socket (the only one, which is on the dock) and it was genuine line-out (one volt peak to peak). It is defiatly not capped in any way shape or form.

Posted by Drewpy on June 17, 2003 at 4:37 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Yes DannieB, and that is why apple will never meet its full potential.

Brett—I see your point also, but I don

Posted by b0f on June 17, 2003 at 2:49 AM (CDT)

"Old and New iPods, Side-by-Side" Review

The battery isn’t inferior, it’s just smaller. Which means it has a shorter battery life, but density to energy wise its probably better, if not equal. Besides 6-8 hours aint all that bad really. Can always get the addon battery pack :)

Posted by Alex Stapleton on June 17, 2003 at 2:41 AM (CDT)

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