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Online Petition for Firmware Updates for Classic iPods

Well,  this petition has a beligerent tone and two.  The customer’s who purchased these iPods purchased them because of the features they had at the time of purchase.  Nobody promised old iPod owners they would receive the same features as the new ones and this is fair. I bought a 700mhz iBook last year, when apple release the new 800mhz would it have been reasonable for me to expect a free upgrade?  Afterall,  aside from more hard drive space how is Apple expected to drive sales of the new units?  Apple has a responsiblity to it’s customer’s-I am one but they also have a responsibility to it’s shareholder’s - I am one

Posted by Scott S in Texas on May 19, 2003 at 2:09 PM (CDT)

Updated: Is the backlight supposed to be blue?

I for one am glad that the backlight is white not blue. White backlights are not common, blue is. If the iPod had a blue backlight it would look very common like a cell phone. I think the white is very distinctive and classy. As for the article about display iPods having higher resolution, that really ticks me off! Also the pictures could depict a blue screen if Apple played around with the white balance of their iPod photos.

Posted by mongoos150 in Tucson, AZ on May 19, 2003 at 1:43 PM (CDT)

Dell iPod Deal Returns! 30GB $409 15GB $319

All I can say is get in fast… I got in on the first one a little later in the day and mine is backordered till the end of the month.

Posted by Jon on May 19, 2003 at 1:16 PM (CDT)

Online Petition for Firmware Updates for Classic iPods

Why did you people purchase the iPod? Was there some implied statement by Apple that they were going to issue annual software updates to it? Did you really purchase a piece of hardware that you didn’t like, with the hope that someday it would be upgraded to something worth while?

Sense the introduction of the iPod, it is my understanding that they have added contacts software, and AAC audio support (as well as some general enhancements). This is more than they needed to do and maybe as much as was possible.

I hope Apple does what it can to make it’s users happy but people have to understand the difference between computers and consumer electronics.

Posted by Doug Petrosky in San Diego on May 19, 2003 at 12:51 PM (CDT)

Updated: Is the backlight supposed to be blue?

damn, i have a 15 gig ipod. the screen is clear and good looking, but it’s certainly nothing too special.

and it’s pretty sensitive to temperature, coldness making it lighter, and warm making it darker.

what a great way to encourage early adopters, if this is true.

Posted by ike on May 19, 2003 at 9:59 AM (CDT)

Updated: Is the backlight supposed to be blue?

White LEDs can vary a bit in color temperature from fairly white looking to blue looking (but definitely not as blue as a true blue LED).

Apple definitely hasn’t switched to blue LEDs on the newer ones, so perhaps they’ve switched suppliers of their white LEDs or what not.  Mine has enough of a blue hue to it that I could see it appearing as it does in those Apple photos with proper photo processing.

I’d like to see a photo of the “new” improved contrast screen though.  I received my 15gb iPod a week ago and the screen seems fine to me, but doesn’t have perfect contrast when the backlight is on (even after playing with the contrast level).

Posted by Mike in Philadelphia, PA on May 19, 2003 at 9:38 AM (CDT)

CNET 30GB iPod Review

I bought the new 30 gig iPod last Weds.  It’s great, but the battery life really is lacking.  I’ve actually ordered a second firewire cable so I can charge it and listen to it at my desk at work, and still keep it charged up at home.

Overall, it’s still one of the best toys in history. :)

Posted by Scott in DC on May 19, 2003 at 8:55 AM (CDT)

Online Petition for Firmware Updates for Classic iPods

Does anyone know if it is possible to run the new features of the firmware on an old ipod? They are different machines with different hardware after all. For example, the new ipod has a higher resolution screen, which appears to be necessary to play some of the new games.

Posted by benny23 on May 19, 2003 at 8:18 AM (CDT)

Online Petition for Firmware Updates for Classic iPods

Upgrade the iPOD already.

i’ve had it almost 1 year now, and an update to support new file formats hasnt been released for windows version. I want wma/ogg instead they put AAC, which is no better than WMA.

im sick and tired of waiting for apple to update a piece of hardware i paid dearly for.
Update the damn format capability.

whats the point of having updatable firmware if they dont use it.

Posted by Stasyna in Canada on May 18, 2003 at 6:17 PM (CDT)

15GB iPod $314, 30GB $404 at Dell Home

Thanks Dealmac.
After reading your tip, I bought the 30GB iPod from Dell ($404). However, I really wanted an extended warranty, so I went to my local Best Buy, showed a sales expert my invoice, and asked nicely if he would match the price. As you all know, they dont usually match online prices - but I told them I wanted the 4 year warranty ($40), and pleaded with them to go ask JOE, a Manager at the store who knows how NOT to lose a customer.

They were surprised that Joe agreed give me the 30GB for $399 (he had given me a great deal on a 20GB last year), so I walked out with my 30GB, a 4 year warranty and a big smile on my face.

Oh, I cancelled the Dell order.
Thanks again Dealmac!

Posted by ravenmortal in ATL on May 18, 2003 at 3:47 PM (CDT)

Online Petition for Firmware Updates for Classic iPods

I agree with Pac3r.  The tone of the petition is a little harsh for my taste.  I too want the 2.0 upgrade, but I am not willing to swear off apple produts for the rest of my natural life.  I’ve only had my iPod (the 20 gb) for 5 months, if I knew then what i know know or had at least been informed that there was going to be the option to choose between the new and old, most certinly i would have chosen the new and watied the 5 months.  But, i have to say…. in the back of my head, i really don’t like the look of the new iPod, it kinda looks cheep without the lucite front and the simpliticy of the buttons around the scrool wheel.  Maybe it’s just me, but i like my “old” iPod more for the look and feel rather then the “new”.  And to be even more honest….i don’t think i have once played the game, but the ablility to create playlists on the fly is a wonderful idea especially for when i’m on the road.  Prior to the iPod i had a Nomad Jukebox (20 gb) and even it had the functionality of playlists on the fly, but did not look at cool or was as compact.  With or without the chance to get the 2.0 upgrade, i will still love my iPod and my Mac (i’ve been a mac baby since 1987) and respect Apple for being an industry leader.  My iPod has become a part of me regardless of updates or upgrades…it truly has become an extension of my own brain.

Posted by jeepin818 in Los Angeles, Ca. on May 18, 2003 at 8:59 AM (CDT)

Online Petition for Firmware Updates for Classic iPods

I like the idea, and I was even tempted to sign the petition. I just wish they had written it a bit differently.

I mean I want the firmware (3.0) badly but I don’t think I will stop buying Apple’s products if they don’t release it for us.

Posted by Kwame in Osaka, Japan on May 18, 2003 at 5:11 AM (CDT)

CNET 30GB iPod Review


Way to go Apple for a great new iPod! I am glad Cnet gave the new iPod a good review. I think they are very strict in their reviews so this is awesome. I love my new 15Gb iPod, just a work of art. I am more impressed with this one than when I got my first generation 10Gb iPod.

Posted by Phong Huynh on May 18, 2003 at 12:25 AM (CDT)

Online Petition for Firmware Updates for Classic iPods

is kevin erway a user of these forums?  i saw someone else from rochester and was intrigued.

Posted by jeff in rochester, ny on May 17, 2003 at 9:47 PM (CDT)

Mac: iPod Access 3.1.5 released

I went with Podworks 2.1.3.  Seems to do what iPod Access 1.2 touts and will recognize the IPod as well!

Posted by Steve Hessler on May 17, 2003 at 5:59 PM (CDT)

Online Petition for Firmware Updates for Classic iPods

I didn’t sign. I’d like to see the firmware updated but don’t support the tone of the petition.

If someone arranges a less beligerent petition I would be happy to sign up.


Posted by Pac3r on May 17, 2003 at 5:02 PM (CDT)

"iPod Envy: Dealing With The idea That You Can't Have It All"

sign the petition:

Posted by anarcation on May 17, 2003 at 11:20 AM (CDT)

Online Petition for Firmware Updates for Classic iPods

hell yeah! this is what we need!

(I’ll bet some “switchers” with ‘old’ ‘Pods might think of switching again if this keeps up…)

Posted by anarcation on May 17, 2003 at 11:18 AM (CDT)

Online Petition for Firmware Updates for Classic iPods

Personally I would find it acceptable to be charged a small amount for the update (say $10), as you would for system software for a computer.

Posted by Tim on May 17, 2003 at 10:55 AM (CDT)

"Pop" between tracks exists on all iPods?

My new 30gb iPod has a definate pop between songs.  Quite annoying.  My RioVolt does not make a pop.

Posted by Rick in Arlington, VA on May 17, 2003 at 10:28 AM (CDT)

Online Petition for Firmware Updates for Classic iPods

i signed up

Posted by cityhunter2501 on May 17, 2003 at 8:57 AM (CDT)

iRemote Concept for iPod

The receiver doesn’t need a battery but the remote needs it.  What kind of battery it is going to use? I guess it needs a very thin lithium ion battery.  Am I correct?

Posted by jjclub in Taiwan on May 16, 2003 at 11:32 PM (CDT) Commercials Debut

my ears cant take anymore of those commericals. why cant they just hire overpriced actors to plug their stuff. arent there enough bad singers with that crappy show American Idol.

Posted by Jaguares in Bay Area, Ca on May 16, 2003 at 8:52 PM (CDT)

Windows: MUSICMATCH Jukebox 8 Released

If you like it so much, why use a crack and not pay the measly amount to use it and support the developers???  iTunes may come and may not come, it may suck for all we know and then you would be upset????  It’s a good program for pc users.

Posted by guest in USA on May 16, 2003 at 10:07 AM (CDT)

Windows: MUSICMATCH Jukebox 8 Released

I got Musicmatch for free with the iPod.  I updated to Musicmatch 8.0 with a crack… do you think I’m actually going to pay for an update key when I know that iTunes will be coming soon.  BTW, I haven’t had any problems with Musicmatch.  It organizes my MP3’s nicely, the synch function is alright, tagging is easy… you have to be a complete morn to s-c-r-e-w that up… and ripping speed are damn fast.  So, I’ve paid $0 as well and I’m very happy!  No need to switch until iTunes comes along!

Posted by Great White North in Canada on May 16, 2003 at 9:00 AM (CDT)

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