Wow. I guess no one else here likes carrying all their music around with them at once, or ever wants to hear a particular song out of their collection at a particular time. I have a 100 gig collection, and so far had held out buying a high-capacity player as none were high capacity enough. I mean, I have a phone (Verizon, not Cellular, so I can actually make calls) that browses the internet, also plays mp3s, plays TV, etc. I have a 1st gen nano (1st MP3 player thin enough for me) so I can listen to day-trip music and run out of batteries, but still be able to make phone calls. Video - watch those on my PSP between games (4.3 inch screen). So, when people are tired of only carrying 16 gigs of music around with them, hopefully Apple won't have phased out hard disk based large capacity players.

Posted by drunken.monkey on September 8, 2007 at 7:45 PM (PDT) Comment 21

Well, I think the only reason Apple has kept the classic style around is specifically to offer a high capacity hard drive style player. I think as putting a strike on the classic b/c is doesn't have a iTouch interface is wrong, the click well is an excellent interface provided on a less expensive device. The move to nand based memory is just the way things are going, so it makes a lot of sense to include in on new tech (iTouch) players. But, for now, capacity just isn't going to be there for awhile. I'm very pleased with Apple's decision to keep the classic style on as a high capacity drive. Clearly the volume of sales Apple has been doing with it's music player lines has allowed it to keep this model as opposed to eliminating it all together. I also believe that a plus for this device is it's ability to be used as an external hard drive, with it's available capacity it usefulness is now more so. Strikes that make sense are any elimination of features and the like. So this iPod classic should be rate based on past iPods of this style, for example, the iPod Shuffle don't have a touch screen either, nor can the iPod classic make a phone call, the point is that the model should be rated for it's intended design and use, which don't believe this review has done very well.

Posted by kaioslider on September 9, 2007 at 7:25 AM (PDT) Comment 22

Why in the heck are the old iPod games incompatible with the iPod Classic? Since the iPod games are a new feature, wouldn't it have made sense to make them work with all iPods 5G and up? WOuld it have hurt Apple to ensure that at least the GAMES would work on the updated iPods?

And what about those of us who have already purchased iPod games and decide to upgrade to the classic? Do we get free upgrades or do we have to buy them all over again?

Posted by ahMEmon on September 9, 2007 at 6:28 PM (PDT) Comment 23

I was at the apple store on saturday and when i used coverflow while listening to a song...the song skipped...pretty sad ! (I don't mind the display coming on a little slow...but for heaven's sake...I can't have anything interfere with the music playback...)
when I asked the guy at the store he said a lot of the previous ipods have had the issue too...and thats how it is...
Have any of you seen this ?

Posted by Ashwin on September 10, 2007 at 10:59 AM (PDT) Comment 24

I am glad that Apple is still keeping the EQ options limited - user adjustable EQ is a virtual guaranty of bad quality sound in the hands of 99% of users, and I think it wise to eliminate it as a feature altogether. It is only "needed" in cases of truly wretched recordings and/or playback gear (e.g., headphones). Otherwise is an invitation to clipping and tacky bass boosts.

Apple's preset approach is the best compromise IMHO, but I keep mine OFF at all times.

Posted by BradPDX on September 10, 2007 at 3:12 PM (PDT) Comment 25

I was ready to trade in my 5th gen iPod until I found out that my iPod games won't play on it. Quite a downer, considering I've spent about $40 on iPod games. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to stick with my current iPod until that 60GB ceiling becomes too low for me.

Posted by schlenn on September 10, 2007 at 6:16 PM (PDT) Comment 26

Bought the 160gb, volume is still capped and all the old ipod volume boosters, eupod, gopod etc. DO NOT WORK! Also it the when used on a Windows machine using itunes it runs like molasses! Not surprising but does Apple have to dump on Windows users? Works fine on my macbook but it is going back unless the volume thing isn't sorted out by some genius at the Apple Store here in London.

Posted by mikey b on September 10, 2007 at 11:30 PM (PDT) Comment 27

Read all these comments and can't help to wonder what people are on about. The interface of the iPod Touch looks great — but I have a 3rd gen 20GB iPod which is slowly giving up the ghost.
All I want to do is play music on it so the iPod Classic looks a bargain to me.
The Touch to me is a Nano with internet connectivity which I'd never use.
If people want that and the new interface fine. Then they're happy and I'm happy with the Classic.
Looks like Apple have hit all the bases here.
No doubt in two to three years time when flash prices fall hard disk-based ones will disappear — but for now I'm happy. (Be happier if you could actually get your hands on any of them in the UK at the moment though! Apple has been saying shipping within three days for the past week on their website!!!)
Also — does not cover art only have benefit if you buy from iTunes? I don't most of the time as I use the hi-fi at home so want better-quality CDs which I can rip to the iPod.
It's horses for courses and I reckon Apple has all the favourites here.
(OK — one caveat. If I had the money I'd buy a Touch and a Classic!!!!! But I don't. So it's the Classic and maybe a Touch when they get higher capacity and my Classic hits the end of its lifespan. Shouldn't these be the buying decisions we all make instead of having to rubbish each other's choices?)

Posted by Jonm on September 11, 2007 at 1:19 AM (PDT) Comment 28

Do ipods sold in Switzerland also suffer from the EU.Volume limitation?

Posted by rudolfraith1 on September 11, 2007 at 4:36 AM (PDT) Comment 29

I was trying out the classic at the apple store this weekend. It seemed to me that the interface was slower in comparison to my 5G ipod. I'm not sure if it's b/c the thing had been getting a workout that day or if the interface truly has gotten slower with the introduction of the new GUI. Has anyone attempted to compare the speeds between the two versions?

Posted by LifeStar on September 11, 2007 at 10:51 AM (PDT) Comment 30

Would you recomend getting this??

I had a creative zen touch before and really am looking at this....would you suggest it??

Posted by Aeirock on September 11, 2007 at 6:05 PM (PDT) Comment 31

Yes the interface is a little slower (slightly) I have noticed it on my 80 GB classic.
BUT.... the interface is AWSOME!
1. Cover flow - works great!
2. Search function - awesome!
3. Games & extras very good.
4. Entire interface is now better with 100% more eye candy!
Oh yeah, they sound better as well!
I have had a lot of pods in my day, 3g, 1g mini, 4g photo (skipped the 5th gen batt life sucked)& two shuffles, so I guess im a fan boy but I would not go near that small high $$$ I-touch!
This ipod classic is one of the best ipods ever, despite what his holiness the great (jobs) says.

Posted by LUNASDUDE on September 12, 2007 at 8:13 AM (PDT) Comment 32

Gotta say it, this review is waaaaay outa line. I have the 5 gen iPod and just a day ago took possesion of the silver classic. There is a definite change to the DAC and its a change for the worse. Comparing both the "classic" lacks upper mid and tends to shout compared to the 5 gen. This occurs with even the most musical of buds (UE pro 5's). Musically this is definitely a downgrade. But it doesn't stop there, as mentioned above the slower UI is a pain in the a**. If you're looking for an upgrade wait 'til Sept 08.

Posted by Nodge on September 13, 2007 at 6:12 PM (PDT) Comment 33

Well to Nodge... I disagree on the interface, it is a little slower because if the coverflow but I would not call it a PITA. But hey sometimes I get mad at my new imac because I want faster! LOL!
As far as the sound qty goes, on my shure heads it does sound better than my 4g ipod but it may not be better than the 5g's?
Overall im very happy with my purchase of the "classic" (coke) LOL! And very glad I got the 8ogb instead of the 160 GB since there crashing with cover flow now! (weird)
As usual your mileage may vary with user expectations and music taste.

Posted by LUNASDUDE on September 14, 2007 at 8:53 AM (PDT) Comment 34

Just picked up a 160GB classic, it says I have 148GB free, w/o anything on it. It also says there is 87.5mb taken; what gives? Is this a bug, or is it really a 150gb HD?

Posted by parsnip_lee on September 14, 2007 at 7:17 PM (PDT) Comment 35

I have a 4gb 1st gen Nano and it says 3.7gb free w/o anything on it.
The HD of the Classic is really 160gb but due to the formatting your available effective storage space is always less. Of course the bigger the drive, the more space you'll lose. But proportional it's the same as on my Nano

Posted by Robert75 on September 15, 2007 at 5:42 AM (PDT) Comment 36

Is there a way to get the iPod Classic interface on my 5G?

Posted by StanT on September 15, 2007 at 3:14 PM (PDT) Comment 37

What is the best case for the 160gb classic as I will be buying 1 in about a weeks time. Also what is the best music format.

Posted by sjaeger172004 on September 16, 2007 at 12:24 AM (PDT) Comment 38

How about the screen scratching? The biggest gripe I've had since the iPod became able to show photos has been the screen scratching and the pain-in-the-a$$ of having to use protective covers, etc.

Curious if the new one is any tougher?

Posted by Tahoe Gator on September 16, 2007 at 12:54 PM (PDT) Comment 39
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