i have to admit, "iSloth" is a really clever insult...

well, maybe not.

Posted by Noah on November 18, 2003 at 9:11 PM (PDT) Comment 21

aye - why 'sloth'? My ipod is faster to operate than my Nomad III ever was, and faster to spin up than a cd player or minidisc.

If Apple had made the ipod four times as large, you could have a battery that lasts a week. So what? For the majority of commuters, 6-8 hours a day is probably plenty.

Posted by woody on November 20, 2003 at 4:40 AM (PDT) Comment 22

"If Apple had made the ipod four times as large, you could have a battery that lasts a week."

I don't think you need to make it that huge! The DellDJ is only slightly larger (maybe .5") and 2oz but it lasts 20 hours.

The Karma is *smaller* than the iPod, but it lasts 12 hours.

Posted by battery on November 20, 2003 at 10:34 AM (PDT) Comment 23

My point is that if the ipod doesn't give you the battery life you want, then buy a player that does. I imagine that Apple made a very careful usability/ethnographic decision based on the fact that most people use their ipods for less than 8 hours between charges. The beauty of Apple is that the design doesn't (ususally) come at the expense of function (my Powerbook 12 is the most wonderful, beautiful, functional thing I own).

Posted by woody on November 25, 2003 at 10:19 PM (PDT) Comment 24

Can you fit the battery pack on the back of an Ipod with a #### iSkin eXo on it

Posted by eXoskin on December 3, 2003 at 11:38 AM (PDT) Comment 25

Since when does the Dell DJ's battery last 20 hours? According to Dell it lasts up to 16 hours, and as is the case with all rechargeable battery systems "up to" really means under optimal temperature, altitude and time of day. I have yet to see a rechargeable battery last for the amount of time the manufacturer has advertised. That said I doubt the Dell DJ will in-fact last for 16 hours. Most reviews I have seen say that the Dell manages up to 12 hours of play, which is far short of 16. I think it is quite commendable that the iPod lasts roughly 8 hours (for most) and Apple only claims "over 8 hours."

For Dell DJ specs go to

For Apple iPod specs go to

Posted by Wheeljack on December 8, 2003 at 7:26 AM (PDT) Comment 26

Since when does the Dell DJ's battery last 20 hours

Dell is being conservative. As a company Dell is refreshingly averse to hyperbole and exaggeration, unlike Apple. "First 64 bit PC my arse".
"The area in which the DJ truly rocks is battery life: an astounding 19.5 hours--significantly more than the 16 hours that Dell claims."
"at 9:37PM the darn thing finally popped up a message that said, “Shutting Down”, followed by a pretty little pixel graphic that says Low Battery. 22 hours and 37 minutes."

Posted by DellDJ on December 8, 2003 at 9:39 AM (PDT) Comment 27

I would buy a Dell DJ if they 'Dell' would stop using music match.
Worst program every. Like it makes notepad look great.

Besides that it is a great player able to "darn i say" match ipod.

I agree about the battery life. Apple should have made the ipod a little bigger so it would break that 10 hour mark at least. That or use whatever battery Dell is using. It works for Dell must work for apple.


Jeff McKnight

Posted by Jeff on December 11, 2003 at 10:12 PM (PDT) Comment 28


Posted by Jeff on December 11, 2003 at 10:13 PM (PDT) Comment 29

I have just found that you can charge the iPod with the battery pack witout the dock (someone reported on another post that putting the battery pack into the dock allows charging). I did this by putting my iPod into disk mode (I have an unpowered firewire card) while the battery pack was [accidentally] still attached and it proceeded to charge. I have a 3rd generation winpod running 2.1 and to get to disk mode you reset (menu+play for 5 seconds) and then hold down ff+rw while it starts up. this may be useful for people who want to charge their ipod when not listening to music so that the bulky attachment is not needed when listening.

Posted by timmy on December 26, 2003 at 2:30 AM (PDT) Comment 30


Regarding the Belkin Battery Backup that takes 4 AA batteries....

Would it be feasible that when the iPod's internal Lithium battery eventually dies for good, that this battery pack could then be used as the permanent battery for the iPod?

Posted by Fonda on January 7, 2004 at 8:22 PM (PDT) Comment 31

It would certainly work for that, although the additional bulk is considerable. For most people, I think, the additional $100 battery service would be worth the price -- especially on a high-end model.

Posted by theReviewer on January 7, 2004 at 8:24 PM (PDT) Comment 32

Thank you for reviewing this in an environment that I would actually use it. Did you use speakers along the trip?

::For backpacking, the additional weight required to support the iPod is substantial;::

Which if the thing had an port on it to charge batteries within the pack, it would be better. In this way, one would only need one or two sets of batteries and, as mentioned, charge them via solar. Get a cheap folding solar panel to charge the batteries while hiking/kayaking/canoeing/camping.

However, the report that the ipod can be charged via the dock and battery pack, may give hope for a light solar rig yet.


Posted by ~cQ on January 15, 2004 at 9:11 PM (PDT) Comment 33

This is perfect for a backup when traveling and, especially when you are off the beaten path-- that's why I got it. I get paranoid that fluctuating electricity might blow it. Maybe this is a stupid concern, but it's nice to know that it you can be self-reliant.

Posted by rumba on January 30, 2004 at 9:55 AM (PDT) Comment 34

~cQ, No, I didn't use speakers on the Muir Trail trip...just went with the iPod's stock headphones. It all added weight to the outfit, but I was really glad to have the music along for the walk. -Eric

Posted by theReviewer on January 30, 2004 at 9:57 AM (PDT) Comment 35

I notice everyone has ignored the poor fellow who asked about connecting this device to a second-generation iPod. Mine has worked fine for some time, but I'm going on an extended trip and came here seeking the same advice. But there wasn't any. Pity.

Posted by OldSchool on February 12, 2004 at 3:52 AM (PDT) Comment 36

I am not really good at electronics, but I saw that the normal power adaptor gives out 12V, while 4 batteries give about 6V. Can anyone test how much the Battery pack gives? If it's also 6V (I would say so), then one could also make it's own battery pack very easily.
I'll appreciate infos about this, and also will notice you when it works!
You also could take the normal FW/dock connector cable, allowing you to store the battery pack soewhere else...

Posted by Mat on February 28, 2004 at 5:44 AM (PDT) Comment 37

oldschool there is a batt that you can make for the older firewire ipod

Posted by hey on March 1, 2004 at 6:30 AM (PDT) Comment 38

I recently bought one of these (yesterday infact) and now I have it, I must say I'm suitably impressed.

For those considdering making one, it might be a low cost option, but there are benifits buying this:

Chaces are the pack you'll make (or buy) will look crap. All the ones on eBay do. The belkin pack looks good on myPod, and, if there is a problem with myPod because of it, there is someone to blame - belkin. Thoguh I expect belkin to of made it properly to work perfectly with the iPod

The pack comes with extra suction cups, and batteires - something I wasn't expecting and am quite pleased with. Hell, you shouldn't own an iPod if you need it, but there is also a 1 page (per language)manual.

Other than the obvious downside that an iPod wont fit in any good comercial iPod cases about - this is definatly worth the investment for the extended battery life.

Though the comments on size and bulk are valid, I think they are over-exagerated. I can still fit myPod in my jeans' pockets - and its really not that heavy when stocked with 4 good AA's.

Mine cost me £50inc. via, with some extortionate £16 for next-day dilevery (necessary, I need it for 2morrow)

Posted by Alex forbes on March 4, 2004 at 9:04 AM (PDT) Comment 39

Does this work with the Ipod Mini?

Posted by Kroz on March 5, 2004 at 11:16 AM (PDT) Comment 40

I'm looking for an alternative to Belkin's battery pack. Although Belkin's looks great and such, I always have my PodSleev on my iPod (and it seems I would need to remove it to use this battery pack). If I DO have to take it off for Belkin's battery pack, I don't want it scratching up the back of my iPod like the review above mentioned. That's just unacceptable.

So, if anyone sees an alternative that is NOT home-made (but is one which a company manufactures), please let me know.

Thanks a lot

Posted by Shiper1 on April 28, 2004 at 5:43 PM (PDT) Comment 41

Just search for battery powered ipod charger on ebay $35 for it for the 3g and $25 for works very good and looks nice..i have had mine for a little bit :-D

Posted by Boaguy on April 29, 2004 at 6:42 PM (PDT) Comment 42

i got mine today for $50. literally, it's just a plastic casing with some led lights. i'm sure there's more inside, but i can't see why it would cost so much. besides, you can only attach it with the suction cups when your ipod is naked. personally, i'm using it with a large rubber band. there's no way i'm letting my new ipod get all scratched up without a case on. one other thing is that it would've been nice if it charged the internal battery when attached.

Posted by j0hn00 on May 2, 2004 at 12:17 PM (PDT) Comment 43

as mentioned above, you CAN charge it. you can either use the dock, or you can switch it into disk mode.

read before you post. smile

Posted by killfire on May 3, 2004 at 2:29 PM (PDT) Comment 44

thanks... didn't see that... yes it does charge the ipod when in disk mode. however, i noticed that when the 4 aa batteries are low, it interferes with the ipod's functions. it keeps pausing songs during play and sometimes makes playback inaudible. also, i've noticed that i can only get 6 hours tops off 4 aa batteries when the internal battery is fully charged. i just took a 7 hour flight cross country and a 13 hour flight overseas. basically, a 24 hour trip with the waiting and a bus ride at the end. i used 12 standard aa batteries (had to keep replacing them when they got low) and ended up draining the internal battery the last few hours of my trip. however, the $50 i spent was so worth it. i have to make the same trip back in a few weeks. one last thing, the led lights are useless. they're never right. one minute, only 2 lights remain and the next all 4 lights are on.

Posted by j0hn00 on May 4, 2004 at 5:40 AM (PDT) Comment 45
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