just bought some of these with my educational discount. they're worth every penny.

Posted by rules on March 26, 2005 at 6:23 PM (PDT) Comment 161

Somebody please help I bought these and its been a year and the left speaker is much louder than the right email the solution to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) getting it checked by a pro tomorrow.

Posted by TheCritic on April 4, 2005 at 8:23 AM (PDT) Comment 162

I'm switching for the standard ipod headphones to in-ear type headphones . . . I went to my local Sony Store and they didn't have the EX71 in stock; just the EX51's. So, I bought a pair and returned them 5 min later. The reason being was that the way the cable was designed; the lower case y style cable. So, when at picked-up a pair of the Apple iPod In-Ear headphones and was pleased to see that they use the upper case Y style cable. So for those who get what I mean by Y and y could you tell me if the EX71 use Y style cable? Because if so I'll buy some and return the apple in-ear pair.

Posted by audible.com_listener on April 5, 2005 at 7:25 PM (PDT) Comment 163

Just for the record (although this thread is old), I found that for price vs. performance, the best thing to do is buy the Apple in-ear buds, a set of the Shure E2 flex sleeves (the clear ones), and then super-glue the sleeves to the ear buds. They go in deep, they stay, and the sound is delicious. (The super glue is necessary because you don't want to do like I did and have one of the sleeves stuck in your ear for an entire subway ride, during which you are trying not to panic about looking like a chump in the emergency room. Panic was unnecessary: a straightened paper clip took it out quite nicely.)

Posted by Grant Barrett on April 6, 2005 at 8:54 AM (PDT) Comment 164

I don't know how you can say they sound bad? Some of you even say they're worse than the stock buds! I admit they do sound horrible out of the box, but have you ever heard of "break-in"? If not, I suggest you play your headphones for 24hours straight at a volume that's slightly higher than you're accustomed to. After that, your headphones will be "broken-into" and hopefully they sound a lot better. This technique applies to ALL headphones and what I think happens is the speaker membrane loosens up...

Have fun!

Posted by milkpowder on April 7, 2005 at 9:59 PM (PDT) Comment 165

Sounded like a good idea is right. Sound is fine IF you shove them all the way down the alimentary canal, I guess.
Uncomfortable with any size adapter, low volume compared to the stock new iPod mini earbuds. Painful to wear if you have any sinus problems. Actually painful to wear and lousy sound even if you don't.
Every Apple product I've bought has been good and worth the money.
Until I bought these in-ear thingees.
Pure junk

Posted by GaryJTN on May 3, 2005 at 3:23 PM (PDT) Comment 166

i got a pir of these. what i did was i bought a pair of Griffin EarJam (i actually bought it to test with my stock bud, its cheap anyway) and take the sleeve from the earjam to fit in the apple in-ear phone. its a perfect match, the right size and fit just nice to the bud, and the comfort is waaaaay much better than the original apple in-ear sleeve. it doesnt slip out of my ear anymore.

Posted by john_ate on May 4, 2005 at 9:48 PM (PDT) Comment 167

I bought a pair of these, and i'm very desapointed:(in the same day i went back to the store and change them for the sony's EX51LP and i also got some money back:]and this time i wont back to the shop, cause this ones made my day:)

Posted by tr├ęsjollie on May 16, 2005 at 4:42 PM (PDT) Comment 168

is it normal for quality headphones to amplify the "shhh", "chhh", and "ckkkk" sounds? when i tried these headphones, the vocals sounded really harsh

Posted by jeffhwang on June 4, 2005 at 12:24 PM (PDT) Comment 169

I agree with Grant Barrett. I have used both the Shure foam sleeves and the flex sleeves. At first I preferred the foam sleeves, but I like the flex sleeves as well. They both have a much better fit than the stock Apple in ear sleeves, with the foam being snugger, but perhaps uncomfortably snug. The sound quality is much better than stock. You can order the Shure sleeves here:

Posted by tofferr on June 21, 2005 at 2:09 PM (PDT) Comment 170

I was really dissapointed with these. They are bright to the point of being ear splitting, don't stay in the ears, and lack bass power. You can always go to the settings on your pod and select the bass enhancer, but it only goes so far.

Posted by tangogirlatl on June 24, 2005 at 1:00 PM (PDT) Comment 171

Boss' post is unpopular and poorly worded but brings up a good point: why does the reviewer try so hard to like an obviously inferior product? I don't understand the "B" rating at all - that's the same grade this site gives to the Shure e3cs! If the phones don't stay in one's ears, they are useless. How they sound is irrelevant if you can't keep them in long enough to hear anything. The mix-and-match idea is clever in thory but logically, just spend the $ on Shure or Etymotics.

I generally trust the reviews on this site, but blind devotion to Apple products makes me question validity. This particular review is decent but hardly supports the B rating. Celebrate Apple's brilliance when deserved and be honest when they fail.

Posted by firecracker on September 2, 2005 at 11:32 AM (PDT) Comment 172

I'm quite an Audiophile usually.... hifi separates... expensive speakers and separates CD players etc.

As I only use my iPod with headphones in the gym (car and home system most of the time) With all the working out and backround noise (gym's own music blaring out etc) I never really needed any higher quality ones than the basic ones that came with the Ipod. (although i did know that better ones existed, obviously)

When I first put these in... I was disgusted... the sound was thin... there was NO bass.... they kept sliding out... no matter what I did.... so I was going to take them back.

Thankfully... mu desire to have some sound-blocking 'phones made me have another try... and this time something was different. They stayed in my ears a little better... not perfect.. but better.

Afte using them just 4 times, they stayed in my ears all the time. The bass still wasnt as strong as I'd been used to... but I figured I could live with that in the gym.

Then I read through all these posts here, and apples own 'how to put them in' page.

wow... WHAT a difference. By using the 'pull your ear out slightly when putting in' method... added to the fact that they lose the silicon 'shine' on the soft parts after about 4 uses... these things are now simply amazing.

The stay in... PERFECTLY..... they block the outside sound... PERFECTLY.

and the sound.... for the price? absolutely fantastic.

The midrange is clearer than previously... the top end is possibly slightly elevated... but i do mean just slightly. And the bass.... wow.. the bass

the 'muddy' bass from other headphones has gone, replaced with that satisfying sub-bass that you are more 'aware of' .. than you hear. bass drums thud... classical music has that 'live' feel with powerful low end driving the music...

i'm SO glad I tried these again... I'd have paid double for the sound, comfort and fit now.

Thanks apple.... my iPod sounds twice as good now wink

Posted by hunky_artist on September 13, 2005 at 9:39 AM (PDT) Comment 173

I just bought a pair of these about a week ago at a local Target. They worked great, but the now I've lost the audio in the right earbud. The left one is normal, but it's extremely quiet in the left one. Any tips? Has this happened to anyone else?

Posted by Kaylin on September 26, 2005 at 3:09 PM (PDT) Comment 174

EDIT: Whoops. The left one is normal, but it's extremely quiet in the RIGHT one. lol.

Posted by Kaylin on September 26, 2005 at 3:10 PM (PDT) Comment 175

i'm guessing a broken wire or something... not sure though.

Posted by hunky_artist on September 27, 2005 at 10:00 AM (PDT) Comment 176

Well, I'm THOROUGHLY disappointed. I purchased a pair of apple in-ears this afternoon. I got home and decided to hold off and do a bit more reading before opening the box and losing my 10%. After a lot of reading, I came to the simple conclusion that the only way to see what works will be to try them. So I opened the in-ears and they STINK (for me).

The left ear fits fine. The right ear I can't make fit with any of the different sizes. No, my right ear is not oddly deformed or otherwise notably different than my left. The slightest tug dislodges the earphones and makes these utterly useless for me.

I'm also extremely disappointed at the amount of sound that gets transferred up the wire as it moves. I don't see how these could be useful for anyone walking around town.

I guess my next try will be a pair of sony phones. Probably the 51 or 81's. I'm heavily debating the 81's with the clip over the ear because the added stability while wearing them is attractive, although I am worried about being able to put them in my pocket when not in use. I'm also worried about the durability issue that seems to be rampant with the sony earphones.

Another question: does anyone know of an ear bud style earphone (rather than an "in-ear") that has a smaller "bud" than the stock ipod headphones?

Posted by munckee on December 1, 2005 at 10:01 PM (PDT) Comment 177

I'm using these headphones with the Sony EX71 tips and these are terrific! The sound quality is on a completely different level than the EX71s (even after the "silver mod" which improved their sound), with much greater texture to instruments, a nice punchy bass, and surprising amount of detail. The isolation is a bit worse than the EX71s however, though it's still there. All in all, I'd put these above the level of a PX100.

Given the isolation, small size, great sound quality, strong bass, good build, and stylish looks, I'd say these are the perfect portable headphones. The included tips from Apple are, as stated in the review, absolutely UNUSABLE! I really don't know what they were thinking. If you have some EX71 tips lying around or want to upgrade from the "metallic" and bloated sound of the EX71s, buy these. At $40 or less, they're a great value.

Posted by Kurashima on December 10, 2005 at 9:12 PM (PDT) Comment 178

I used to use the Sony MDR-EX51LP but the cord is pretty f**ed up after I used it a couple of times in the gym. Some sweat got on the cord and it turned soft, thick and torn. But the sound is great and they fit and stay perfectly.

When I bought the nano, I decided to buy the Apple in ears too, because I got used to in-ear headphones. What a waste of money, they don't fit at all and yes, I tried different sizes and pushed them as far as I could. For the few seconds that they did stay, I could say the sound isn't that great, I can barely hear the bass, but that's probably because they didn't fit.

Realizing the price is the same as the Sony 51, I really made a mistake buying Apple's in-ear headphone. But considering other reviews, it's different for each person, some fit, some don't.

Posted by nanorookie on January 14, 2006 at 9:15 AM (PDT) Comment 179

I am quite disappointed with this product. It's true that opening up the ear canal while inserting the buds creates a more stable seal and, interestingly, another review that I have read suggests inserting them upside down (i.e. with the cable entry point facing up) which seems to help a bit.

The bottom line? Griffin's Earthumps are a much better alternative for a much lower price.

Posted by alasta22 on March 11, 2006 at 11:45 PM (PDT) Comment 180

I bought these to replace my week old EX71 which I did not get on with at all, would have bought these in the first place but for the comments on this review. IMHO the sound is better than the EX71 if you properly insert them in your ear, it's louder, the Sony sound flat and I prefer the brighter sound of these. They do not slip out of my ears but maybe that is because I'm used to wearing earplugs and don't mind pushing them in further. The other thing that makes it better ergonomically is the wires, the Sony EX71's have a ridiculous long lead with a plug in the middle that puts weight on the lead and uncomfortable.
Best headphones for the ipod in my opinion, but have yet to try Shure or Etymotics, but then again they are 4 or more times more expensive than these.

Posted by desmoboy on April 7, 2006 at 11:31 AM (PDT) Comment 181

I have had these for a week now and have found a few improvements that can be made; first I used the Sony EX71 silicon tips, these create a better accoustic seal. Then I adjusted the EQ manually, using the accoustic EQ as the baseline to reduce the bass slightly. Hope this helps.

Posted by desmoboy on April 13, 2006 at 5:59 PM (PDT) Comment 182

My iPod earphones just broke, so we were at Walmart, and my mom bought me these, because they were the only decent ones there. Suprisingly these things sound is amazing! Theyre not the most confortable things but I'd reccomend em. The big issue is gettign them in your ear just right,not to far in or out

Posted by Xalaxracer on June 14, 2006 at 3:09 PM (PDT) Comment 183

here's my take... they sound GREAT, good balance... When you have a good fit... they fit fine for a little while then start easing out... when the "seal" is not good, neither is the sound... I'm going to save the Fry's reciept and try to find some sony EX81s, and see which I like better

Posted by tat2dphreak on August 11, 2006 at 1:29 PM (PDT) Comment 184

I like a neutral "flat" sound to my music, so my first in-ear phones were UE 3's that sounded great (flat, detailed sound), had great isolation, looked goofy, and were fiddly to fit... but they broke (no sound, fluid leaking from left earphone) during a transcontinental flight after ~10 hours of use (and were later returned). During a layover, I picked up some Griffin Ear Jams so I could listen to my stock earbuds for the remaining time. The Jams provided little isolation, boosted bass, but in a muddy/Sony sort of way, and were not comfortable for more than an hour or two. I had planned to pick up some ER-6i's or Shures, but my wife got me the Apple in-ear phones for Xmas and I didn't have the heart to return them. I found the iLounge review is mostly correct about fit issues, but once I figured out how to wear them (much like fitting the 3's), they stayed in place, sounded nearly as detailed as the 3's and had more bass, but slightly less isolation. I tried the Griffin covers (that look identical to the Sony's) on the Apple unit and found that they put the driver in a different spot - to get the same bass, I had to jam them uncomfortably far into my ears. While still occasionally fiddly, I think the Apple in-ear phones sound great for the money and respond well to iPod EQ settings when their neutral sound gets too flat, so I'll defer spending more on Etymotics or Shures. I hear that using the foams from Shure EC2s is the ultimate mod for these.

Posted by ckilner on February 6, 2007 at 10:31 AM (PDT) Comment 185
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