Josh Bryant, please stop bothering me once and for all. I do not know you, nor do I ever wish to meet you. Also, please stop leaving messages of you singing on my answering machine. Thank you.

Posted by Dj kelly on January 26, 2004 at 12:29 PM (PDT) Comment 51

Sending mine back too.....

Can't get a decent seal after almost an hour of patient experimenting with all earpiece sizes. Spent ages listening to different genre's of music swopping originals back and forth with in ears for comparison. Forward, back, rotated deep+ to no avail. The originals actually seal better for me and get a ridiculous amount more base. For my ears at least,"Crisp" is a polite description of the in-ears sound. "tinny" is perhaps more accurate, certainly in comparison to the originals. Glad for those of you who managed to get a seal but for new buyers. it seems like a real russian roulete as to whether or not these will work fo you. I certainly couldn't recomend them. Don't get your hopes too high. Try and borrow some perhaps to test before you splash out and do a side by side comparison with the originals in a quiet setting. Just wish I could make my overhead sennheiser HD 280's a tad more portable! Now THEY sound REALLY good

Posted by kf on January 26, 2004 at 2:32 PM (PDT) Comment 52

Ick...I tried out these new Apples and they are really a disappointing me they were a muddier version of the original ridiculous buds. After some websearching I found a cool place in Chicago that actually allows you to try out the Shures..and Etymotics!!!!!!! Very cool folks...I originally went in intent on getting the Ety4 or 6 rationalizing that I can also use them for work but after listening to the ShureE3c there was really no comparison. I've got all the disappointing cheapos as backups (sony 51, 71s) that everyone keeps praising...they are ok if you listen to cassettes or low kbs ripped mp3s....but really if you can, take a listen to the shure 3cs at your local pro audio shop! True night and day difference. The only draw back is that they are a touch pricier at $150-175...well worth it if you plan on using these for awhile....I've been terribly disappointed with the sonys, bose, apple, and to a certain degree the etymotics (primairly in their harshness and the price of the ety6) but really you don't need that high end for a freakin' mp3 player people...that is just overkill. I won't go into all the redundant gushing about why the shures rock over the others since it seems to have been repeated ad nauseum in this thread ...but at least go to the shure site and check out these new babies....(aside from the gorgeous sound they are incredibly comfy and don't look as retarded as the other shures...oh and not that I really care but they do just happen to be in white...ooh la la). For those on the fence of spending the extra dough....i can't overstate to go look on the web for a local pro audio joint that will demo these for you...there is no point in spending way too much...or way too little and be disappointed while wasting your time listening to inferior headphones after you forked a lot out for the ipod/music. I've been very cynical about those that gush on about $400+ well as those that actually think the sony71s' are really worth talking about other than with a cassette walkman...I really think shure did a incredible job stepping up and truly bridging the gap! Not to really rip on those that own either of those other headphones but if you are really looking for something that will make your jaw drop you owe it to yourself to at least demo these if you are lucky enough to live close to a dealer! Good luck!!

p,s,-most of these places also offer a 30day return policy so whatcha got to lose!!

Posted by Zax on January 26, 2004 at 7:50 PM (PDT) Comment 53

Oh I should also add that it is KEY that you get proper fitting...not only in the size/comfort ratio...but how it actually sits in your ear at any given moment. When I first tried out the shure e3c i thought they weren't that hot until i kind of wiggled the phone about and found the sweet spot on both really does make a ton of difference!

Posted by Zax on January 26, 2004 at 7:54 PM (PDT) Comment 54

i have a pair of these and have not experienced the 'slipping out' thing. they fit just fine in my ears (guess they were made for a certain few...). being a dj, im used to the full-sized headphones. i bought these for their portability and supposedly good-quality sound. i cant say that im impressed, but they sure do look great!

oh yea. as for the earwax problem a few of you are having...please clean your ears every day! lol!

Posted by pinoiboirich on January 26, 2004 at 8:21 PM (PDT) Comment 55


i think what apple should do is come out with a line of replacement ear-bud thingys. since they're exchangeable, this would be a perfect way to solve the problems many of you are having with fitment. anyone agree?

Posted by pinoiboirich on January 26, 2004 at 8:23 PM (PDT) Comment 56

Got my Etymotic ER-6s last night. Now that's a set of earphones. Comfort, ergonomics and sound quality. Easily worth $99.

Posted by rdlink on January 27, 2004 at 10:53 AM (PDT) Comment 57

after reading these comments, ill be importing the white sony's!!!

Then ill buy a minipod, and be done!

Posted by XanDaMan on January 29, 2004 at 11:50 AM (PDT) Comment 58

What is the difference between the sony ex70/71's and the ex51's....Sony's site lists the exact same specs for both

Posted by David McClain on January 30, 2004 at 3:51 PM (PDT) Comment 59

I woke up this saturday morning and I decided i'd go and get these new In-Ear buds from the Apple store.
I called them and they had one left, so I rushed there to get them. On the way back home in the train, I took them out, connected them and, to say the least, I was seriously dissappointed. Shrill sound, no bass and definitely not better than the original buds that came with my iPod.
I should have gotten out of the train at the next stop and gone back to return them. But I thought, it must be something I'm not doing right.
So I come home and try all the EQ settings, try it out on my laptop, on my stereo installation. And it didn't get any better.
And now I am so mad at myself that I didn't read this article b4 I went to buy them.
Sound is a personal thing, but these just don't cut it. Like the article say, "They sounded like a good idea" and that's about it.
I'm returning them and if they won't be taken back, I'll leave them on the counter. The Apple store can use them as a show model.

My advice, use the original ones or look for something else.

Posted by twum on January 31, 2004 at 7:39 AM (PDT) Comment 60

I love these headphones. They aare so much better then the stock headphones that come with the ipod. The only problem with these headphones are that it takes some time to get time in the right position to get the b est bass responce. after the 2 min that it takes you to find "the spot" in your ear, you really can hear the difference.

Posted by dave on January 31, 2004 at 6:33 PM (PDT) Comment 61

i think you guys are all big fargen pussys. All this moning and groaning over in-ear headphones, how to get the best bass, blah blah blah.... Some of the people in hear have spent over 200 dollars on 5 different sets of headphones. Here's my advice: buy a set of stupid headphones, and if you dont like em, tuff. Quit whining how they have "tinny" sound quality, or, OMG, they fall out of your ears!

Buy the way, what the **** does tinny mean? A mix between thin and tiny?

Posted by ahhhshit__zu on February 1, 2004 at 11:51 AM (PDT) Comment 62

okay, after the many many negative comments, i bought them anyway, mainly cos they look good i guess wink

my first experience was, yes, lots of treble, no bass at all (compare it with turning bass all the way down and treble all way down). right ear piece kept felling out...

then i remembered the posts here, where someone said push em as far in yar ear as possible, n trying all sizes. so i did, pushed it real hard in my ears. not perfect, but better. sound was okay, earpiece stayed in place.

since i still wasn't satisfied, i just started to move the pieces around in my ear, twisting and turning to see if i could get it deeper. and yes, now it fits perfectly, and the sound is as full as i ever heard it on headphones.

beats anything i ever heard (k i haven't ever tried the expensive ones, but as someone mentioned here before, we're listening to mp3s...), so great buds! congratz to apple if u ask me

Posted by sickb0y on February 2, 2004 at 2:14 AM (PDT) Comment 63

There is no sound good enougth to make up for the horrible design of the SONY EX71.. What's with that chord desgin ?

Posted by bob on February 2, 2004 at 7:23 AM (PDT) Comment 64

The worst earphones i have ever used. It's so sad that something could look so damn nice and work so bad.

Posted by David on February 3, 2004 at 5:20 AM (PDT) Comment 65

Not sure if someone has already mentioned this further up the post - but try wearing the apple in ear buds upside down (with the wire going over the top of your ear). I found that gives a good seal and they don't work loose when you walk around

Posted by Steve on February 3, 2004 at 5:45 AM (PDT) Comment 66

I agree, bob. They suck. So do the Apple ear buds. Buy the Etymotic ER-6s. They're worth the $99.

Posted by rdlink on February 4, 2004 at 8:49 PM (PDT) Comment 67

I just got a pair and I reckon they are top notch. 10 on 10. The sound is far better and I've had no problems with slipping headphones...from my ears.

Posted by Iggy on February 5, 2004 at 4:40 AM (PDT) Comment 68

Mine died (muffled sound) after 30 days. I never thought they sonded that well. tried to get $$ refund from Apple but only thig I got was a cost-free replacement. Anyone want to buy them?

Posted by ec on February 8, 2004 at 6:56 AM (PDT) Comment 69

If the Sony MDR-EX71SL didn't have the "remote friendly" cable, I woulda definately been getting one.

If you don't use the remote (which I don't), you can either have the options of using the 0.5m cable (too short) or attach the 1.0m extention so that the cord is 1.5m long (too big).

The happy medium was when you could buy (now no longer available) the Sony MDR-EX70's in white which had a 1.0m cord without extention of any sort.

Anyone know where that is available? Tried eBay but to no avail...

Posted by Rish on February 8, 2004 at 9:31 AM (PDT) Comment 70

If the Sony MDR-EX71SL didn't have the "remote friendly" cable, I woulda definately been getting one.

If you don't use the remote (which I don't), you can either have the options of using the 0.5m cable (too short) or attach the 1.0m extention so that the cord is 1.5m long (too big).

The happy medium was when you could buy (now no longer available) the Sony MDR-EX70's in white which had a 1.0m cord without extention of any sort.

Anyone know where that is available? Tried eBay but to no avail...

Posted by Rish on February 8, 2004 at 9:35 AM (PDT) Comment 71

i am thinking of getting the shure e2. do u recomend? i can get them for 53 new (about $80) is this a good price

Posted by MBV on February 8, 2004 at 1:16 PM (PDT) Comment 72

What's the noise cancelling effect like with the Apple/Sony/Etymotics. I want some headphones to replace the original iPod buds that will seal out external noise for long bus/car/plane trips. Do big, over the ear cans provide better noise cancelling if you have good ones? I'd like to know people's thoughts.

Posted by Nuke666 on February 8, 2004 at 11:36 PM (PDT) Comment 73

Honestly, I don't know what others are talking about, but after paying 40 for a pair of these headphones, I really felt ripped off.
The sound is so flat. No bass whatsoever. For me, the original buds are much much better.

Since I won't be able to get my money back from where I bought them, I'll be sending them back anyways. I'm not using them and if I don't get my money back, it won't make much of a difference. The shop can use them on display in the window or something.
I'm not mad at the shop or the people working there. They are nice. It's just the quality of the thing that Apple made, is bad

Posted by twum on February 9, 2004 at 3:14 AM (PDT) Comment 74

I have used the in-ears for a number of weeks and they fit fine now and don't slip out, even while jogging or on the bike (like they did initially).

They still need a to be adjusted to get the sound just right. They do cancel noise well. I have to take more care while cycling with these bad boys in.

Those who find the bass weak; try re-postion them. I have found this helps.

I think the bass is well balanced. There seems to be a preoccupation with bass. Most of these frequencies are felt with the body, something that will not be reproduced by speakers of such small size and power.

Posted by Cker on February 9, 2004 at 3:16 AM (PDT) Comment 75
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