Hmmm, there we go then...mostly what we were expecting I suppose, the size and cool factor is the selling point I guess

Posted by Nuke666 on February 23, 2004 at 3:19 PM (PDT) Comment 1

When I came home with my green mini. I turned it on to see it was 3/4 full. I plugged it in and iTunes opened up and it downloaded my 3.6 GB of songs. I didn't load the included CD into my iMac. The next day I decided to boot up the CD and add the mini software which popped up in the Utilities folder. There was no iPod mini software on my computer prior to that... or was there? I have Panther and the new iLife suite. Anway, I had no problems. I have yet to let it run to depletion, but may do so tomorrow to see how long the battery will last.

Posted by pkradd on February 23, 2004 at 4:19 PM (PDT) Comment 2




Posted by albums name?!? on February 23, 2004 at 4:21 PM (PDT) Comment 3

Yeah, I jst saw that, sux huh. I wasn't gunna get one anyway, 10Gig 3g is good 4 me

Posted by Nuke666 on February 23, 2004 at 5:41 PM (PDT) Comment 4

Great review congrats ipodlounge
Apple users we are luky bastards, just plug and play
Thank´s Steve & Co.
Sorry wintels, still plug and pray! realize and switch now

Posted by osmac on February 23, 2004 at 6:00 PM (PDT) Comment 5

bah osmac ..whats this crap ? i don't want to switch ...and i never will , my i pod works perfectly fine with my win xp machine and i have never had a problem raspberry

pray that raspberry

Posted by Krzysztof Sikorski on February 23, 2004 at 6:20 PM (PDT) Comment 6

I really like my mini.
Good for working out smile

I have a Problem...
I am a Windows XP User.

So now I gotta go see a shrink cuz I am having problems importing songs in iTunes from a CD due to my CD_ROM drive. Oh well! That can be fixed....

Posted by Thomas on February 23, 2004 at 6:27 PM (PDT) Comment 7

Mine worked perfectly fine using firewire and windows 2000 with SP4. I wonder if the reviewers may have had some problems because of the third party program EphPod? I also haven't seen any of the glitches described in the article. Of course, I've only had it since 6:15 Friday. This thing is seriously way cool.

Posted by turn1200 on February 23, 2004 at 6:35 PM (PDT) Comment 8

Mine actually crashed! Oh well, that's forgivable. No problems using it with WinXP, USB2 and itunes for windows.

Posted by DanL33T on February 23, 2004 at 8:14 PM (PDT) Comment 9

How much does it cost in australia coz that is where i live does any1 noe

Posted by Zal Buu on February 23, 2004 at 8:19 PM (PDT) Comment 10

Enjoy the flash competition: US$450 for 250 songs!

(Also note that ALL competing players except the Zen Extra ALSO use a built-in battery. At least the iPod is popular enough that there are several sub-$50 battery replacement options out there.)

Posted by Nagromme on February 23, 2004 at 8:27 PM (PDT) Comment 11

Mine did not need to be formatted, (PC w2k) and I did not experience any of the glitches or crashes expressed in the review. I charged the battery for 5 hours before 1st use, and so far, 4hrs 30mins, battery meter is at 20-25%. Most all of my mp3s are VBR aps. I'm hoping that the battery life does get abit better "with age", but so far its acceptable.

Posted by Watson on February 23, 2004 at 8:30 PM (PDT) Comment 12

I will scream if i have to:

If you have big music collections stay away and stop bugging the ipod mini. This isnt for you people with large collections it's for the people who only have several hundred songs. It's for them not you, its to fight against RIO and Creative.

Posted by Martin on February 24, 2004 at 4:27 AM (PDT) Comment 13

couple comments:

1) great review, but i can't believe you didn't mention the differences between the mini and the 3G iPods when it comes to syncing. The mini's sync process, on an Mac anyway, reverts back to that of the 1 and 2G models. Upon inserting the firewire cord, the mini resets (Apple logo appears on screeen), then the "do not disconnect" screen appears. Once syncing completes, the "okay to disconnect" screen appears (the one with the big checkmark), which was missing from the 3G versions (and missed by few, I imagine), which simply went back to the main menu once syncing was complete. Although a minor difference, i for one prefer the 3G syncing process -- that extra 10 seconds between syncs is just enough to be annoying. Overall, though, worth it for such a great product.

2) I have a HUGE music collection, though I guess HUGE is relative. With over 11,000 songs, I own both a 40GB and a mini. I don't, however, anticipate the 40GB leaving the house with me any time soon. The mini is the perfect alternative to the 40GB -- it holds only the music I LOVE (though, admittedly, not all of it -- I think I would need around 6GB for that), it doesn't require a protective case (I've decided to be less anal with the mini that I am with the 40GB, which sports two protective cases when mobile), and is small enough to carry in any pocket without it becoming an annoyance. Plus, it matches my PowerBook and JBL creature speakers, which is always a plus for the obsessive. Home run, if you ask me.

Posted by michael beno on February 24, 2004 at 6:47 AM (PDT) Comment 14

Let's talk about big music collections.

If I wanted to fit all my mp3s - collected over the last 10 years -- onto iPods, it would take more than 30 of the 40GB iPods.

Now that's not really portable. I use a fiber channel RAID-5 array to store them all, but I am not so naive as to think I will ever be able to fit any apprececiabgle percentage of the collection onto any portable before 2015 or so.

Being portable is about choice. That's why we have Ratings, and Smartlists, and all the other fancy tricks of good jukebox software.

Use them!

Posted by big music on February 24, 2004 at 8:12 AM (PDT) Comment 15

"Just for kicks, we then plugged a 3G iPod in to see what would happen. Apple's drivers initially told us that they need to update the system software on the 3G iPod, which the software apparently recognized as an out-of-date version of the iPod mini. In the spirit of experimentation, we hit "okay." To Apple's credit, rather than erasing the iPod or corrupting its firmware, the software realized its mistake and said that it couldn't update the iPod - wrong version. We were thrilled. And iTunes then ran without incident."

Without incident? Maybe this is why you couldn't get the iPod Mini to work from the get-go!!!

I hate it when reviewers try to blame their PC problems on something other than their creaky OS and frankensteined hardware.

Get a Mac. Everything worked as advertised!

Posted by The Raven on February 24, 2004 at 9:20 AM (PDT) Comment 16

TheRaven: That doesn't make any sense.

Posted by Frank on February 24, 2004 at 9:58 AM (PDT) Comment 17

What "that" doesn't make any sense?

Posted by The Raven on February 24, 2004 at 10:07 AM (PDT) Comment 18

I'm not so sure that the iPod screen display is anything to write home about. After I battled my way past the mob to take a look at a demo model, it seemed a little pixelated to me. And also I am surprised Apple haven't added any greyscale image viewing. Even those Frenchies are getting in on this these days, for photo viewing and album art. This player I saw in Best Buy has a damn nice screen with good resolution and contrast and it's the same size as the iPod Mini's:

Click for image

Of course, the device itself has that nasty Fisher Price chunky shape in common with the Nitrus - the iPod's rectangular shape is better for carrying and stowing, not to mention strapping on the arm! But I'd like to see Apple use their screen a little more than just for system info - let's see some album art and some cute icons. Apple invented cute icons - I'd expect their iPod icons to rule!

Posted by screen on February 24, 2004 at 10:45 AM (PDT) Comment 19

Personally, I don't really care for cute icons on an iPod. It would just limit the amount of information they could show on the screen. Admittedly, they would help to identify a certain menu more quickly by scanning the icons, but I'd rather just a list and skip the visuals. It's mainly for listening to music, anyway.

Posted by grandmasterfunk on February 24, 2004 at 12:52 PM (PDT) Comment 20

TheRaven: It looks like you didn't even read the review, or missed what that paragraph was talking about.

Posted by Frank on February 24, 2004 at 1:03 PM (PDT) Comment 21

"(For those keeping score, the large icon now features a gradated fill effect rather than an one-to-four bar fill effect.) Fans of other MP3 players may scoff at the late arrival of this otherwise mandatory "feature," but we'll just say that it's good to see it in the mini."

- My 3G 15gig has that graduated fill too, no it like a new feature or something?

Posted by Ronin on February 24, 2004 at 2:27 PM (PDT) Comment 22

To clarify about my earlier statement about using XP, I have just been having trouble with it from day one. It's not the iPod. Just a poor OS, IMHO. I love my mini and iTunes

Posted by Thomas on February 24, 2004 at 2:56 PM (PDT) Comment 23

Michael Beno wrote:

I have a HUGE music collection. I own both a 40GB and a mini. I don't, however, anticipate the 40GB leaving the house with me any time soon. The mini is the perfect alternative to the 40GB -- it holds only the music I LOVE , it doesn't require a protective case and is small enough to carry in any pocket without it becoming an annoyance. Home run, if you ask me.


(I edited it a bit for me smile

Posted by Chris on February 24, 2004 at 5:23 PM (PDT) Comment 24

Zal Buu, they're being released is Aus is April, but MacConnection will ship worldwide and u pay in US$ so it will be cheap at the current exchange rate smile and u'll get it b4 everyone else.

Posted by Nuke666 on February 24, 2004 at 6:01 PM (PDT) Comment 25
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