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where in Atlanta can i get the SHURE E2c ? i have a friend going next week and i want him to get it for me. if u have a web site that is pricer than atlanta street price please post it

Posted by GSY on July 26, 2004 at 4:08 PM (PDT) Comment 41

I recieved mine today, and after about 5 hours of fooling around with them I am at a standstill. I have been using the sony ex71's for portable use, and I shift between bose quiet comfort II's and sennheiser 570s (depending on what type of music I'm listening to) for home use. To tell you the truth these earbuds sound great, WHEN THEY STAY IN MY EARS. The quality is up there, but not as I would have expected from the extremely positive reviews spattered about the internet. Perhaps my ears are just too weird to accept them, for not one of the flex (clear or grey) sleeves fit my ears. They all fall out, and even if i shove the middle size in, the isolation is horrible and the headphone is not able to functiion as it should. The foam inserts were my last resorts, and I can get them to work, but they still fall out after 15 minutes or so. The funny thing is that one of my ears will fit the foam perfectly, and it will not fall out, but the other just isn't having it. I am totally dissipointed, and I might have to let these go to ebay. My only hope is to look into the custom made gels, my Jabra gel fits perfectly. My only concern is that the cost of the custom gels won't be worth it for a sub-$200 pair of ear buds.. anybody have any advice?

Posted by louis on July 27, 2004 at 6:54 PM (PDT) Comment 42

I have the etyomic er-4 and LOVE THEM SO MUCH. But- they absolutely cannot be used walking or on a treadmill- you hear the wire banging on your body and it's no ok. I want to get something nearly as good for walking and get rid of my apple ipod crummy ones. Can anyone tell me- do the Shure E3c have this same problem with cord noise? I'm not seeing complaints (except one guy who heard his feet on the ground)on this but I would think they would have the same problem. Because when your ears are closed up you hear every internal body noise extra loud- like chewing or whatever. But- ok so anyone use these regularly for walking? Please reply and help me out!

Posted by Julie on August 1, 2004 at 5:21 AM (PDT) Comment 43

I just got my E3C today. I had difficulty trying to get them on at first. However, after a few tries, I can now put them on and off quite easily. As far as sound quality is concerned, all I can say is WOW. It is now difficult to go back to the Apple buds. The sound isolation of the ultra flex sleeves (they are very comfortable; I use the small size) is also more than good enough for me. I can now enjoy my iPod mini in the living room without having to keep telling the kids to turn down the TV volume. BTW, I can still hear ambient noise a little bit when the iPod is OFF. When the iPod is ON, I can't hear anything from the outside. Just me and my music.

Money well spent.

Posted by PATB on August 1, 2004 at 6:18 PM (PDT) Comment 44

I've had these for about two weeks and have experimented with them a lot. Here's what I found. The sleeves you use make a HUGE HUGE difference in the sound quality. I had initially been using the gray ones. Tried both the small and medium sizes. Was somewhat disappointed in the sound quality. While it sounded very clean and flat, I felt it was missing depth/color. I actually considered returning them at one point. I recently switched to the clear sleeves and still can't believe how different the sound is. I guess they make a better seal because these now sound really good. Three dimensional, which was missing before. I still need to see how comfortable the clear sleeves are to wear for an extended period of time. Never had a problem with the gray ones.

I think these are great earphones. I'm a DJ and use Shure needles and will tell you they make real high quality products. These earphones definitely take a while to get used to because of the way they go in, but the main review above it right - it's definitely a superior way to wear earphones.

Posted by GWass on August 8, 2004 at 1:17 PM (PDT) Comment 45

My dad bought these for me for my birthday, and I'm so sad that he spent $180 on me. I hated them, I'm sorry I know everyone's ears are different, but because of how far these things cram in your ears (especially if you roll over while trying to go to sleep and listen to some relaxign tunes at the same time) I got splitting headaches. Also, since your ears feel plugged your brain says "Your ears are plugged you should hear nothing right now" yet you hear great sound quality music. I spent hours trying to figure out why I felt so uncomfortable and that was my conclusion. Now I wear the apple in ear buds, and I love them. The sound quality isn't nearly as good as the Shures, but if you like to listen to music while going to sleep on your side, I recommend the apple in ear buds for comfort. I can't even feel them. And they stay in all day and night without a hint of discomfort. I guess it's all a matter of personal preference though.

Posted by Kendall Barnes on August 10, 2004 at 12:16 PM (PDT) Comment 46

anybody have any advice on where and how mucha nd what to expect for custom ear plugs for my e3's...i love the sound but the fit isnt that great for me so i am looking for custom molds but dont know aht to think or do so give me some advice!

Posted by rivlinm on August 10, 2004 at 5:49 PM (PDT) Comment 47

These 'phones were a task to track down in England but once found i managed to haggle the seller down to a price in comparison to internet stores. These are great 'phones with amazing clarity, sure the bass isn't for those bass addicts who like to distort there music, but it is there and i get my level of satisfaction out of it. One thing thought is that it requires a good seal to get anything out of these.
In conclusion these are great and a great improvement over the E2c's and incomparable to the stock iPod 'phones.
A definate must!

Posted by Will Burn on August 15, 2004 at 2:42 AM (PDT) Comment 48

I just ordered some E3C's and am anxiously awaiting their arrival. However, I am torn by the glowing reviews of the Sony MDR-EX71SL/EX70SL headphones hear on the Lounge. Anybody have experience with both?

I am an electronica listener and like my bass to be crisp, but not overpowering.

Posted by Jon on August 20, 2004 at 11:30 AM (PDT) Comment 49

I am an electronica listener and like my bass to be crisp, but not overpowering.[quote/]

if this is what you want i think you would struggl to find better phones.

Posted by Will Burn on August 22, 2004 at 12:47 AM (PDT) Comment 50

I cant decide wether I should get the Shure E2c or the E3c anyone know what whould be better

Posted by ipodman on August 23, 2004 at 9:33 AM (PDT) Comment 51

Jon, i had the ex71sl and have the ex51lp.. i got to try on the E3's in the airport on satuday night.. i ordered my E3's sunday!!! can't wait to get them..

Posted by LTR/RTL on August 23, 2004 at 4:46 PM (PDT) Comment 52

I owned these buds for about 48 hours - just couldn't make them feel right. Not only that, at times they were downright painful to insert. I really don't like the idea of inserting an earbud that far down the ear canal. Also, the "behind-the-back" route for the cord may be good for stage musicians, but for me it was a huge PITA, especially when I would twist my head, the bud would get pulled and dislodge and then I would have to go through the entire tortuous process of re-inserting it. To top it off - they didn't really sound that great! Certainly not an improvement over the Sony SL 71's...JMHO and YMMV...best, BP.

Posted by BizPod on August 25, 2004 at 2:55 PM (PDT) Comment 53

I purchased the E2c's a while ago and was very pleased with them. When I saw the E3c's available online for $129 I decided to try them. After comparing both side by side for a few hours I came to conclusions similar to other postings here and elsewhere online.

The same volume setting on the iPod is considerably louder on the E3's. The clarity is also much better on the E3's. Initially I thought the bass response was a lot better on the E2's but after listening to several different types of music I realized that while the bass is more prevalent on the E2's, it's not as clear. Trying the different EQ settings on the iPod has allowed me to get a little more bass response from the E3's while retaining the clarity.

Sleeves.....the sleeve you use definitely has a huge impact on the sound. When I bought the E3's I also purchased a pair of the triple-flange sleeves. Imo shipping the E3's without including these sleeves in the box is an injustice. Much better fit and sound isolation and well worth an extra $10.

Overall I'm very pleased with the E3's. Especially considering I paid $99 for the E2's and only $129 for the E3's.

Posted by Octavian on September 23, 2004 at 2:26 AM (PDT) Comment 54

I have a question regarding the use of the iPod remote. I just recently purchased the E3C's and it was a close call between them and the ER6i's. But I am very happy with my purchase even though I havn't given them sufficent time to "burn" in. I have an iPod Mini and fly a lot. Often crammed in close quarters and wanting to change my songs and playlists often, I really enjoy the ease of the remote. My question is - How much am I sacrifising the quality of the sound by using the remote with the Mini. I know that the longer cord and having two plugs must cause some loss of power or quality, but how much? Am I wasting the use of the headphones by plugging them into the remote? Someone please let me know your thoughts.

Best regards,

David

Posted by David on October 20, 2004 at 8:49 AM (PDT) Comment 55

Students can get E3c's for $139 at http://www.academicsuperstore.com/q/tname/f/item-index/v/Earphones/index.html?sourcecode=lcg&promocode=0DFP02XX

Posted by Christopher on October 25, 2004 at 8:46 AM (PDT) Comment 56

If anyone thinks this phone does not have enough bass, he must not have a good seal. I first bought an E2C, loved it. Then tried the E3C. First trial was very disappointing. I put it away for a few hours (planning to return it). After reading this post in more detail, I decided to give it a try again. This time more focused on the seal. I tried the yellow foam this time. I was TOTALLY SURPRISED by the results! Bass was as tight (if not more 'ture) than the E2C. Mid and Low are distinctly much better/clearer than the E2C.

I am returning the E2C and keeping the E3C. It's worth every penny. BTW: You could get a E3C for less than $130 at Proaudiosuperstore.com.

Enjoy!

Posted by iPOD Ben on October 25, 2004 at 7:43 PM (PDT) Comment 57

Anyone thinks this phone does not have good bass must not have a good seal. I first got a E2C and was pretty happy with it. I then bought a E3C to try it out after reading some very good reviews. I was disappointed at first because I had similar negative experience as some of the reviews here - sound was too tinny and bass was non existence. I almost decided to return the E3C. However, I read some more reviews on the internet and convinced myself I should give it one more try (after I packed the phone back in the package). With some adjustment of the phone into my ears, I got amazing good results! When inserted in the ears properly (with good seal), the sound is definitely (significantly) better than E2C! I was amazed by the bass (much trurer than E2C) and the much clarity at the mid and high. I got it at proaudio.com for less than $130. This is definitely worth every penny of it. I don't think I can use any other phones from now on!!!

Posted by iPOD Ben on October 30, 2004 at 11:13 PM (PDT) Comment 58

Has anyone tried using the optional Triple-Flange Sleeves ? How do they sound and do they stay put more than the included flex and foam sleeves. I'm having problems keeping them in my ears. Does anyone know?

Posted by Musax on November 22, 2004 at 9:18 PM (PDT) Comment 59

Just to let everyone know that ecost.com is selling E3C's for only 114.99. There's only a couple days left. I already bought mine... it sounds great. Hurry.

Posted by Musax on December 3, 2004 at 9:49 PM (PDT) Comment 60

How do they give the ety er6i's an A and these e3cs a B? They completely fail to mention the similar price tag for the etymotics, while high price is one of the major drawbacks to these??

I spent quite some time over at [url=http://www.head-fi.org]http://www.head-fi.org[/url] talkin to the audiophiles. I was torn between what seemed to be identical earphones.. shure e3c and ety er6i.

They definitely did not see them as equal!!


durability: e3c > er6i
comfort: e3c > er6i
bass: e3c > er6i
less microphonic sounds:
e3c > er6i
overall sound: too subjective to say raspberry

Posted by mctriple on December 12, 2004 at 3:56 PM (PDT) Comment 61

Just opened up these guys for Christmas. Here are my first impressions:

Sound Quality: I normally listen to music on either my Grado SR80's or Sony MDR900's. The E3c's compare favorably in the mids, but the highs seems to be lacking detail (especially when compared to the SR80's) and the low is definiately lacking (take this with a grain or salt as my Sony cans are known for having a strong and warm low end). Songs that I love to listen to because they have a real *punch* to them are much tamer on the E3c's. In any case if you're looking for big bass (or even if you listen to a lot of hiphop like I sometimes do) you're going to get screwed with earbuds if you spend under $400 no matter what. In general since they are earbuds I don't expect them to be perfect. They are certainly reasonable for the price but don't expect to put your normals cans down after you get these. One thing that may help is that I've only been listening for a few hours and most cans take some time to break in. Also when you get new cans it takes some time to psychologically adjust to how they handle sound =) The quality of the seal is quite important and in your first 15 minutes or so you will figure out how to get a good seal. You can sort of tell when you try to take the phones out and it's tough because they stay in there from the suction. Finally, microphonic noise (being able to hear yourself move/breathe) is pretty aweful when there is no music, but once you turn them on it's completely unnoticeable.

Comfort: The gray silicone sleeves are very comfortable. The clear sleeves are atrocious, and the foam sleeves are fine. Great selection in general =) I'm actually ordering the triple flange sleeves right now and I expect them to be the best ones. I wear glasses and was afraid of the whole over the ear thing, but it's not a problem at all. I really am starting to love the over the ear design of these buds, the wires are kept neat and they don't fall out at all.

Conclusion: So far I'm pretty pleased with these phones and am expecting the experience to get even better as I get better sleeves, the phones break in, I get use to the sound, etc. Worth the money, but definitely not the end all be all of headphones.

I've never listened to the Etymotic phones, but I'd love to try so I could compare. I'm assuming that the ER6i's come close and that the ER4P's blow the E3c out of the water.

Posted by nxmehta on December 25, 2004 at 11:37 PM (PDT) Comment 62

I just opened up these phones for Christmas too and I have to say I am not pleased at all. I looked far and wide for reviews and info on the Shure E3c and most of them were positive. If you have them and like them, good for you. Otherwise, if you're considering getting a better pair of earphones than the default Apple ones, here are my 2 cents.
I mostly listen to metal but I don't think it's relevant. The Shures are uncomfortable, have no bass at all (even with a good seal) and make a huge hole in your bank account. The last post mentioned something about microphonic sound... Let's talk about microphonics: at one point, I could feel my heart beating through the music! You can hear yourself walking too which defies the point if you want to use them while commuting or jogging. In other words, if you want to use the E3cs, stay calm and don't move an inch!
Of course, the sound quality is great in the high- and mid-frequencies. Although I don't really see the 'depth of field' allusions I've seen here and there: you're pumping sound directly on your eardrum, how could there be any depth of field? Anyways... I have one good point to stress: sound isolation. It's probably the only thing the Shures do right. Even sitting in the back of the bus, right beside the engine, you hear only your music (and yourself breathing...) which is a good thing although it could become dangerous if you're not really careful.
Let me sum this up... I really didn't like these phones and can't see why they're so expensive. It's great for the layman to get access to semi-professional products but if the product sucks, someone should have the guts to say it. So today I went out and bought a pair of Sony MDR-EX71s. For $200 less than the Shure's you get a much better deal. Try them out before your go for the Shures, especially if you lack more bass and if you're on a budget like most of us.

Posted by bobsky on December 26, 2004 at 4:04 PM (PDT) Comment 63

Just got my E3 phones for christmas and have been listening to them for about 8 hours total so far. I also let them play while I slept last night in case there really is something to phones needing a "break-in" period. Not sure I buy in to that theory, but it didn't hurt anything by doing so.

I listen to rock, blues, metal and a good deal of techno/electronic stuff. Everything is LAME --alt-preset standard encoded mp3 directly from CD or vinyl.

I tried the dark grey small sleeves first and while I was able to get a good seal, I felt they were a tad uncomfortable. The clear smalls were, obviously, more so, so I've been listening with the foams almost exlusively. They still cause a bit of irritation from the plasic tube that slips onto the nozzle rubbing the inside of my ear, but it's not bad. I'll be ordering the tripple flange sleeves to see if they're any more comfortable.

As for the reported anemic bass with these phones, I was admitedly worried about that. I'm not a bass junkie by any means - I've got a killer home system for rattling my dog's teeth out, but for the price I was hoping that this was an overblown/indivual issue. Personally I think they deliver more than adequate bass. Tracks like the Chilli Peppers' "If You Have To Ask" (Flea!) are tight and punch as are all of my juicy Primus tracks. The Crystal Method's track "Starting Over ", one of the more base-heavy tracks on their Legion of Boom CD sounds bombastic. smile

All in all I'm happy with the 125$ I laid out for these phones. They deliver clean sound, decent frequency separation, are more than efficient enough for my ipod and stay put when run properly. My wife's birthday is in January so I might get her a set of ER6i phones to see how they compare.

~slicky

Posted by slicky on December 26, 2004 at 8:02 PM (PDT) Comment 64

I've been using the E3C's for about 40 listening hours.

I disagree with 50% of the review- the sound isolation with the default sleeves is excellent with moderate-volume music playing. I've watched people yelling, dogs barking, buses driving by- and never heard ANYTHING but the music. Ever. Maybe the reviewers ear canal wasn't well suited to that particular sleeve?

Sound quality part 1- CAN be simply amazing and unbelieveably clear and crisp. The sound fills every millimeter between your ears as if your head suddenly became a small empty concert hall- you can't even tell where the sound is coming from.

Sound quality part 2 - With the pre-packaged iPod phones you can generally tell when you have a crappy encode vs. a really good one- but it's not that noticibile nor distracting. With the E3C's, the clarity is so much better you can easily tell the difference between great, OK and substandard encoded music. The limited frequency response, stereo seperation and compression artificats in poorly encoded tracks are appearenty enough to be somewhat distracting- and very much lacking in bass (which is where I believe the negative impressions are coming from). On the other hand, well encoded MP3's with no frequency adjustment at all sound extremely good- PLENTY tight base, psychotic levels of stereo seperation and light, airy high end.

One note, as mentioned in other reviews- shove them in DEEP- they really like a tight fit (which is not uncomfortible at all).

The only negative I have is that the cord is sensititive to vibrations of any kind. Thump the cord and you'll hear it, even with the music going.

I did back-to-back against a pair of US$400 audiphile/studio quality over-ear Sennhieser HD600's- The HD600's are quite a bit better than the E3c IMHO, but the difference isn't nearly as striking between the two as it is between the E3c 's and the stock iPod phones smile

Posted by Jephryb on December 30, 2004 at 11:49 AM (PDT) Comment 65
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