This would have been a great product if they had just put a simple screen. even a one line or two LCD. I wish i had an LCD on my ipod remote even. Theres no way i would ever be interested or recomend a player that has no screen. it is a good price but thats why cus they cut too many corners. thumbs down for me.

Posted by mrfeee1 on January 18, 2005 at 11:13 AM (PDT) Comment 21

I tried out the shuffle at Mac world and the sound quality was awesome. I even plugged my earphines into it so i had a ipod to shuffle comparison and it sounded better than my 2nd gen.ipod.

Posted by silvertrailer on January 18, 2005 at 12:02 PM (PDT) Comment 22

i have a 4g 40gb ipod and half the time i cannot see the screen anyway. i have it in the marware case and i thread the remote down my sleeve because its freakin cold and i dont want to have to open my jacket each time i want to change a song so for these reasons i dont think the lack of screen will be a problem.

Posted by BigDukeyDog on January 18, 2005 at 5:45 PM (PDT) Comment 23

i own a 4g 20gb ipod and i feel this is a pice of #### mp3 player. he onlything good for it would be for puyying a few songs on it and as a good flashdrive. i mean trully, would u really press the "next button" 120 to get to your song you want.

Posted by ipodmania on January 18, 2005 at 6:38 PM (PDT) Comment 24

sorrybot the spelling, wasnt paying attention. ""putting"" ""the""

Posted by ipodmania on January 18, 2005 at 6:39 PM (PDT) Comment 25

I like the mini, as it comes with a belt clip. What do you suggest I get for iPod Shuffle? The arm band (is it by Apple) does not seem easy to use. The thread constantly affects my running. Any belt clip plans by Apple?


Posted by AKB on January 18, 2005 at 8:47 PM (PDT) Comment 26

Clearly iPods with screens have BIG advantages.

The points is, the Shuffle has its OWN advantages. Over other iPods, and other flash players. No product is perfect for everyone, but the Shuffle is a great choice for some people.

It's smaller, lighter, simpler, and costs less than those competing players with screens. It also plays audiobooks. They generally don't. And it has autofill. They don't.

You get some real value in trade for losing the screen. Especially if you like small!

Posted by Nagromme on January 18, 2005 at 9:49 PM (PDT) Comment 27

While I like it, it doesn't offer enough incentive for me to "upgrade" from my gym/workout friend, a Creative Nuvo Tx.

Posted by syciprider on January 19, 2005 at 7:18 PM (PDT) Comment 28

Im a newbie to the IPOD world! The Shuffle is great! Awesome price! Sounds great too. Its so light! The 512 is perfect for my workouts! No more carrying my hefty cd player that only plays one cd! Now i can load it up with my favorite 130+ songs and press play. No need for a screen! Its for listening...not looking..DUH!!!!

Posted by halosix on January 19, 2005 at 9:31 PM (PDT) Comment 29

I have been wanting an iPod since they were released, but they were just out of my price range. Now I can afford one and the best part is that it works seamlessly with iTunes which I already use. As for the lack of screen, it doesn't bother me one bit. An LCD screen just drains batteries quicker so if leaving out a screen means getting me an extra hour or two of play time I'm all for it. I think this is a great entry level product for new users like me.

Posted by coldknight on January 20, 2005 at 10:48 AM (PDT) Comment 30

Just recieved my Shuffle yesterday. This thing is great!

My only complaint is the difficulty of moving the slider to turn the thing on. It needs something to grip instead of the smooth plastic. Am I the only one having this problem? Are there any solutions out there?

Posted by MichaelZ on January 21, 2005 at 3:22 AM (PDT) Comment 31

I think some innovative mfr can replace that USB cap with something more functional, maybe a tiny LCD/LED screen, maybe a headphone jack with a remote connector, etc... Just random ideas... not that Shuffle needs it...

Posted by Saint Zany on January 21, 2005 at 4:49 PM (PDT) Comment 32

I agree with those who says its even cooler for iPod owner to have this shuffle as an supplement for the existing iPod.

I'll definietly get one as soon as I can

Posted by tozenter on January 22, 2005 at 8:42 AM (PDT) Comment 33

With all the features that this iPod shuffle were short of, despite of it's cheap retail price... I think that a 4g iPod is still worth buying.
"shuffle" is not as exciting as when the ipod mini was introduced.

iPod is about music storage power, iconic looks and screen display.

Posted by mavman on January 23, 2005 at 6:41 PM (PDT) Comment 34

For those of you who keep asking for a the mini! and stop asking for more features! thats why its costs $99. hey does have power! the battery lasts longer than your $300 ipod! keep checking out the screen while i just listen to my music, lol

Posted by halosix on January 23, 2005 at 9:37 PM (PDT) Comment 35

yup...what you pay is what you get!...that's why i bought the4g iPod..i dont want to click a hundred times before i could actually play the song that i

Posted by mavman on January 24, 2005 at 10:47 AM (PDT) Comment 36

I used to think that a screen was a necessity. I also felt like I NEEDED to be able to carry ALL of my music and audio programs... Until Apple reminded me that I wasn't simplifying my life with all of my playing on the computer and getting music and scrolling around wasting battery life, etc. I was complicating my life and time. After all, I just want to listen to the music I love and know so well. So, I am excited to one day get a Shuffle, and make my listening to music a little more sipmle and reduce the weight in my front left pocket! Thinking about this has helped me realize how little I actually use my screen. Plus, being a long distance runner, I would MUCH RATHER carry the shuffle instead of my 4G 20gb iPod. It is just a little too big and its not really a necessity to navigate while I am focusing on the ground beneath my feet and my time/heart rate.

Posted by starperformer on January 24, 2005 at 12:47 PM (PDT) Comment 37

So, I am excited to one day get a Shuffle, and make my listening to music a little more sipmle and reduce the weight in my front left pocket

You *do* know they have been making tiny keychain mp3 flash players since 2000?

I have one word: iProduct wink

Posted by Demosthenes on January 24, 2005 at 12:53 PM (PDT) Comment 38

Hi, I'm sorry i advance if this is the wrong forum to post this on. If you use the shuffle on a PC, will I still get all the benefits (auto-fill, ipod updates, auto convertion to AAC, etc etc)? Has there been any reported problems from a user of a PC? On that note, can I use the shuffle simultaneously on a mac and a pc? Primary would still be a PC, just wondering if it is possible though....(that would be awesome though, hope jeremy can look into this) Thanks for any inputs on this!

Posted by wicket on January 25, 2005 at 12:42 AM (PDT) Comment 39

Biggest complaint: updating songs from iTunes is SLOW SLOW SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Danyboy on January 25, 2005 at 7:15 AM (PDT) Comment 40

Personally, I think that the iPod shuffle is a good product, dependent on your situation. for me, I do use it in a gym but use it while I travel more. For this reason, I think that an ipod mini or an ipod 4g 20gb is better for me. But for someone who is an athelete (or the like), the iPod shuffle would probably be better

Posted by Kiara on January 25, 2005 at 10:26 AM (PDT) Comment 41

Sounds as though Danyboy is in the same situation as me. I unfortunately found my iMac FlatPanel does not have USB 2.0 and the Autofill was really slow. No big deal. Pick the lists and walk away. I love this thing.

My wife has a 3G 20GB iPod which holds our whole library and we sync the calendar/address book which is nice on trips. I would occasionally borrow her iPod for work. Whenever I would use her iPod I'd select an "On the Go" playlist and then shuffle it throughout the day without looking at the screen.

The shuffle is perfect for my needs. I love that it just hangs around my neck and I can use the controls easily without looking at the unit. I find the earbud cord is a bit too long, but I'll get that silly cord wrap thing recommended here.

IMO the screen is not a necessity and it fits my needs perfectly. I'm sorry, Mavman, if you can't find 250 songs in your Library that you wouldn't mind listening to then you've limited your musical taste severely. This is now my own personal radio station with only the songs I want to hear popping up randomly as I move through my day.

Posted by fishert on January 25, 2005 at 6:10 PM (PDT) Comment 42

i am a 3G 15gig ipod owner. i think the ipod shuffle is something to complete the ipod collection on case of things to want in a mp3 player. original ipod, people loved, but thought of it as too fragile, and you had to baby it whereever you took it, then the ipod mini came, not, because of the different casing you didn't feel like you needed to carry this puppy around using your fingertips when it didn't have a case. (i've seen people do it) and then there was the price, the cheapest bran new one you could get is the ipod mini price, and at that price you could chell out another 50 bucks and get more than quadruple the memory. (though i know ipod minis are more a fashion statement than anything else for most people) but now the ipod shuffle comes along. like most of the posts prior to me have said: it's not for everyone. but it's for the people that thought of the ipods are too fragile, too expensive, too complicated..ect... apple is getting every comtumer to buy thier products now who did not buy ipods prior for listed reasons. and at a great price none the less. and for the already ipod users, this is just ipods little brother, and if you have both you can use either for different occasions, if you are going somewhere and are worryed about getting your ipod stolen or broken, bring the shuffle instead, inconspictuous in your pocket, and what people can't see, they wont't steal. (though if you are worryed abut someone stealing your ipod, don't wear the white earphones, it's a dead give away)
overall ipod is ipod #5 in a great family tree.

(prior ipods being ipod, ipod mini, ipod U2 edition, and ipod photo)

Posted by ayedoubleyou on January 25, 2005 at 8:48 PM (PDT) Comment 43

What are the power specs for the optional power adapter? Is it really the same as the iPod's (like the review said) with 12v output? Or is it 5v like standard USB?

Does anyone know what range of voltages the iPod Shuffle will handle? The iPod is pretty forgiving for anything from 6v to 18v (at least).

Posted by Joe Hendrickson on January 26, 2005 at 9:18 PM (PDT) Comment 44

Well, I've had my Shuffle for three weeks now and I'm still impressed by it's size and weight. I used it every day to go walking. My wife uses it in the evenings. I may get her one for Valentine's Day!

My only complaint is the time it's taking to get the case I ordered from Apple. I think they only made one case for the introduction.

Posted by MichaelZ on January 28, 2005 at 2:26 AM (PDT) Comment 45
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