I like the mini, as it comes with a belt clip. What do you suggest I get for iPod Shuffle? The arm band (is it by Apple) does not seem easy to use. The thread constantly affects my running. Any belt clip plans by Apple?


Posted by AKB on January 18, 2005 at 8:47 PM (PDT) Comment 26

Clearly iPods with screens have BIG advantages.

The points is, the Shuffle has its OWN advantages. Over other iPods, and other flash players. No product is perfect for everyone, but the Shuffle is a great choice for some people.

It's smaller, lighter, simpler, and costs less than those competing players with screens. It also plays audiobooks. They generally don't. And it has autofill. They don't.

You get some real value in trade for losing the screen. Especially if you like small!

Posted by Nagromme on January 18, 2005 at 9:49 PM (PDT) Comment 27

While I like it, it doesn't offer enough incentive for me to "upgrade" from my gym/workout friend, a Creative Nuvo Tx.

Posted by syciprider on January 19, 2005 at 7:18 PM (PDT) Comment 28

Im a newbie to the IPOD world! The Shuffle is great! Awesome price! Sounds great too. Its so light! The 512 is perfect for my workouts! No more carrying my hefty cd player that only plays one cd! Now i can load it up with my favorite 130+ songs and press play. No need for a screen! Its for listening...not looking..DUH!!!!

Posted by halosix on January 19, 2005 at 9:31 PM (PDT) Comment 29

I have been wanting an iPod since they were released, but they were just out of my price range. Now I can afford one and the best part is that it works seamlessly with iTunes which I already use. As for the lack of screen, it doesn't bother me one bit. An LCD screen just drains batteries quicker so if leaving out a screen means getting me an extra hour or two of play time I'm all for it. I think this is a great entry level product for new users like me.

Posted by coldknight on January 20, 2005 at 10:48 AM (PDT) Comment 30

Just recieved my Shuffle yesterday. This thing is great!

My only complaint is the difficulty of moving the slider to turn the thing on. It needs something to grip instead of the smooth plastic. Am I the only one having this problem? Are there any solutions out there?

Posted by MichaelZ on January 21, 2005 at 3:22 AM (PDT) Comment 31

I think some innovative mfr can replace that USB cap with something more functional, maybe a tiny LCD/LED screen, maybe a headphone jack with a remote connector, etc... Just random ideas... not that Shuffle needs it...

Posted by Saint Zany on January 21, 2005 at 4:49 PM (PDT) Comment 32

I agree with those who says its even cooler for iPod owner to have this shuffle as an supplement for the existing iPod.

I'll definietly get one as soon as I can

Posted by tozenter on January 22, 2005 at 8:42 AM (PDT) Comment 33

With all the features that this iPod shuffle were short of, despite of it's cheap retail price... I think that a 4g iPod is still worth buying.
"shuffle" is not as exciting as when the ipod mini was introduced.

iPod is about music storage power, iconic looks and screen display.

Posted by mavman on January 23, 2005 at 6:41 PM (PDT) Comment 34

For those of you who keep asking for a the mini! and stop asking for more features! thats why its costs $99. hey does have power! the battery lasts longer than your $300 ipod! keep checking out the screen while i just listen to my music, lol

Posted by halosix on January 23, 2005 at 9:37 PM (PDT) Comment 35

yup...what you pay is what you get!...that's why i bought the4g iPod..i dont want to click a hundred times before i could actually play the song that i

Posted by mavman on January 24, 2005 at 10:47 AM (PDT) Comment 36

I used to think that a screen was a necessity. I also felt like I NEEDED to be able to carry ALL of my music and audio programs... Until Apple reminded me that I wasn't simplifying my life with all of my playing on the computer and getting music and scrolling around wasting battery life, etc. I was complicating my life and time. After all, I just want to listen to the music I love and know so well. So, I am excited to one day get a Shuffle, and make my listening to music a little more sipmle and reduce the weight in my front left pocket! Thinking about this has helped me realize how little I actually use my screen. Plus, being a long distance runner, I would MUCH RATHER carry the shuffle instead of my 4G 20gb iPod. It is just a little too big and its not really a necessity to navigate while I am focusing on the ground beneath my feet and my time/heart rate.

Posted by starperformer on January 24, 2005 at 12:47 PM (PDT) Comment 37

So, I am excited to one day get a Shuffle, and make my listening to music a little more sipmle and reduce the weight in my front left pocket

You *do* know they have been making tiny keychain mp3 flash players since 2000?

I have one word: iProduct wink

Posted by Demosthenes on January 24, 2005 at 12:53 PM (PDT) Comment 38

Hi, I'm sorry i advance if this is the wrong forum to post this on. If you use the shuffle on a PC, will I still get all the benefits (auto-fill, ipod updates, auto convertion to AAC, etc etc)? Has there been any reported problems from a user of a PC? On that note, can I use the shuffle simultaneously on a mac and a pc? Primary would still be a PC, just wondering if it is possible though....(that would be awesome though, hope jeremy can look into this) Thanks for any inputs on this!

Posted by wicket on January 25, 2005 at 12:42 AM (PDT) Comment 39

Biggest complaint: updating songs from iTunes is SLOW SLOW SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Danyboy on January 25, 2005 at 7:15 AM (PDT) Comment 40

Personally, I think that the iPod shuffle is a good product, dependent on your situation. for me, I do use it in a gym but use it while I travel more. For this reason, I think that an ipod mini or an ipod 4g 20gb is better for me. But for someone who is an athelete (or the like), the iPod shuffle would probably be better

Posted by Kiara on January 25, 2005 at 10:26 AM (PDT) Comment 41

Sounds as though Danyboy is in the same situation as me. I unfortunately found my iMac FlatPanel does not have USB 2.0 and the Autofill was really slow. No big deal. Pick the lists and walk away. I love this thing.

My wife has a 3G 20GB iPod which holds our whole library and we sync the calendar/address book which is nice on trips. I would occasionally borrow her iPod for work. Whenever I would use her iPod I'd select an "On the Go" playlist and then shuffle it throughout the day without looking at the screen.

The shuffle is perfect for my needs. I love that it just hangs around my neck and I can use the controls easily without looking at the unit. I find the earbud cord is a bit too long, but I'll get that silly cord wrap thing recommended here.

IMO the screen is not a necessity and it fits my needs perfectly. I'm sorry, Mavman, if you can't find 250 songs in your Library that you wouldn't mind listening to then you've limited your musical taste severely. This is now my own personal radio station with only the songs I want to hear popping up randomly as I move through my day.

Posted by fishert on January 25, 2005 at 6:10 PM (PDT) Comment 42

i am a 3G 15gig ipod owner. i think the ipod shuffle is something to complete the ipod collection on case of things to want in a mp3 player. original ipod, people loved, but thought of it as too fragile, and you had to baby it whereever you took it, then the ipod mini came, not, because of the different casing you didn't feel like you needed to carry this puppy around using your fingertips when it didn't have a case. (i've seen people do it) and then there was the price, the cheapest bran new one you could get is the ipod mini price, and at that price you could chell out another 50 bucks and get more than quadruple the memory. (though i know ipod minis are more a fashion statement than anything else for most people) but now the ipod shuffle comes along. like most of the posts prior to me have said: it's not for everyone. but it's for the people that thought of the ipods are too fragile, too expensive, too complicated..ect... apple is getting every comtumer to buy thier products now who did not buy ipods prior for listed reasons. and at a great price none the less. and for the already ipod users, this is just ipods little brother, and if you have both you can use either for different occasions, if you are going somewhere and are worryed about getting your ipod stolen or broken, bring the shuffle instead, inconspictuous in your pocket, and what people can't see, they wont't steal. (though if you are worryed abut someone stealing your ipod, don't wear the white earphones, it's a dead give away)
overall ipod is ipod #5 in a great family tree.

(prior ipods being ipod, ipod mini, ipod U2 edition, and ipod photo)

Posted by ayedoubleyou on January 25, 2005 at 8:48 PM (PDT) Comment 43

What are the power specs for the optional power adapter? Is it really the same as the iPod's (like the review said) with 12v output? Or is it 5v like standard USB?

Does anyone know what range of voltages the iPod Shuffle will handle? The iPod is pretty forgiving for anything from 6v to 18v (at least).

Posted by Joe Hendrickson on January 26, 2005 at 9:18 PM (PDT) Comment 44

Well, I've had my Shuffle for three weeks now and I'm still impressed by it's size and weight. I used it every day to go walking. My wife uses it in the evenings. I may get her one for Valentine's Day!

My only complaint is the time it's taking to get the case I ordered from Apple. I think they only made one case for the introduction.

Posted by MichaelZ on January 28, 2005 at 2:26 AM (PDT) Comment 45

The Shuffle was my first iPod purchase. I am happy, but won't go bigger - just not for me. I only need a couple hundred songs for my portable player.

thanks apple!

Posted by Mega on January 28, 2005 at 9:31 AM (PDT) Comment 46

I have had my Shuffle for 2 days and the mini for about 6 months. Though the mini is not as full featured as the mini I find the shuffle a great mobile music player. Currently the Shuffle has 239 songs the mini 750.

I took the Shuffle snow boarding today and I found it nearly invisible the entire day.

The device sounds great and easy to use even with gloves on.

The simplicity of the device is why I made the purchase. I could have purchased other brands devices but I like the apple interface and it usabilty. Apple also seems to be on top of their software. For instance the auto fill feature is great.

There somethings I do dislike about it. The smooth power switch makes it is difficult to turn on and off. I am not sure if there is a button hold feautre but if there is n't I would like to see that. I would like to see a clip like te ipods have.

Great device glad I have it

Posted by bruinsrme on January 29, 2005 at 1:21 PM (PDT) Comment 47

It sounds like the shuffle is a nice addition for people who already own an iPod but want a smaller more activity friendly device. The Shuffle would be great to take along on ski trips etc. I would like to see an add-on device to allow Autofill from an iPod to a Shuffle. I can see myself taking both on an extended ski trip, using the Shuffle on the slopes and syncing it with the iPod at night.

Posted by Trix606 on January 30, 2005 at 5:57 AM (PDT) Comment 48

The shuffle is good for people who are money-concious like myself and who don't really care what song you're playing. Also, good for those who don't have alot of songs like myself. The only feature that I despise about this unit, I have one myself and no other iPod, is that you must have a computer to charge it...And there is no direct adapter that you can buy to hook up to the power outlets...You must have the dock and the power adapter.

Posted by AsianAndrew on January 31, 2005 at 2:47 PM (PDT) Comment 49

To jaisonline- Lots of devices dont have displays. The BOSE wave system is a no display system (except for the clock) only controlled by a remote. I just ordered my shuffle, and it looks incredible.

Posted by Almost Famous on January 31, 2005 at 5:29 PM (PDT) Comment 50
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