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Jeremy, I would also like an answer to mrgrill's question: does the iPod still function when connected? This would mean that with a home stereo, you connect the remote to the stereo (using the headphone jack, not a line out connection) and then you can control the stereo from the iPod. Does this work, or do the iPod controls become disabled?

Posted by mrfett on January 30, 2005 at 10:46 AM (PDT) Comment 21

i was really looking forward to this product, but after seeing how it turned out, i think it's pretty useless.

the lanyard device is way too big! come on ten, give us an iriver type remote as your bluetooth lanyard.

for $239 use hp headphones so that you don't have to carry an extra device? well, then how do you remotely control the ipod? you can't. geez, i'd rather buy two ipod shuffles or an ipod mini for that amount of money.

ten uses the dock connector, and can get the song playing, but doesn't put an lcd on the remote. ridiculous.

yeah, i agree with suninmoon and krex -- this is just not worth it.

Posted by chache on January 30, 2005 at 1:32 PM (PDT) Comment 22

As mrfett said, can someone answer my question [2nd post]. I require [well, I want] a resonably priced bluetooth solution for my home stereo. I don't mind if I use my iPod as a remote [probably better] or hook my iPod to the stereo as long as I have an LCD display so I can see what tracks I'm going to play. I think the best solution is the BlueTrip, however, I'm not to keen on the Set Top Box style reciever that it includes. Why can't someone just develop a little device that plugs into the back of a stereo so you can use your iPod as a remote. It's simple!!! no need for big boxes or needless extras. What do these product designers get paid????

Posted by mrgrill on February 1, 2005 at 12:38 AM (PDT) Comment 23

For mrgrill and mrfett: absolutely, your iPod will work as normal with this attached, so you can do exactly the kind of thing you want by connecting the receiver end to your home stereo and using your iPod as a remote. Too bad the receiver doesn't have a line out jack in addition to the headphone jack for this purpose, but it's a small gripe.

For chache: the HP headphones do have the same controls that are on the naviPlay receiver, so you can play/pause, fast-forward, rewind, and control volume. Obviously no display though. These headphones are very nice (I've used them), and I think a much better option for me than the remote/receiver, which I agree is too big. I think TEN may be coming out with a smaller remote end before long, but I'm just speculating.

Posted by Connery on February 1, 2005 at 2:29 PM (PDT) Comment 24

As it stands this is a bit pricey for the functionality it offers. If you want a cheap bluetooth remote for your stereo plug your ipod into your mac and your mac to your stereo line out or airtunes if you want total wirelessness. Control and feedback can be acheived using a bluetooth enabled mobile phone and freeware or shareware applications romeo or clicker. Clicker gives as much control over your ipod as your ipod, playlist, track searches etc and feedback onto the screen of your phone of which track is playing and time remaining.

This product will come into it's own only when is interoperates with a phone allowing calls to come through to the headphones and to speak through it's microphone. Even then it's feature set will not be complete without a screen on the remote for feedback.

This product will come into its own when it allows phone calls to

Posted by andreh on February 7, 2005 at 1:25 AM (PDT) Comment 25

could you use this to broadcast music to a car which has bluetooth capabilities?
that would rock.

Posted by Vivian Nikolich on February 15, 2005 at 9:13 PM (PDT) Comment 26

In considering the potential of this device, I am thinking more along the lines of what Vivian mentioned. I don't really see any benefit in being able to listen to my IPOD from 5-10-whatever feet away, when I can just carry the IPOD with me. But the possibility of wirelessly utilizing a 40 GB archive of music in my car without using the itrip - now that is what this device should be used for.

Consider the Motorola Bluetooth car kit (S9642C). For those of you unfamiliar with the device, here is a link:

http://commerce.motorola.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=253711&prmenbr=126&accessories_cgrfnbr=22&zipcode;=&phoneID;=&search_string=238596,29&type=262356

And I quote, "This car kit also has the ability to communicate with other Bluetoothâ„¢ enabled devices inside the car, including wireless phones and portable MP3 players.
" How awesome would it be to run all your music through bluetooth into a bluetooth carkit that you are already using with your BT-enable mobile phone. That, in itself, would provide the functionality of muting the music when on a call (assuming the car head unit provides this functionality as well). Plus, the remote might actually prove somewhat useful given this paradigm

If anybody has attempted such an integration, I would love to see you post! Props to Vivian for thinking outside the box on this product. I think it just might have the potential to be a winner.

Posted by utreja on February 27, 2005 at 3:38 AM (PDT) Comment 27

I think something that is really missing from this entire article is the functionality of its bluetooth, meaning that not all bluetooth devices are created equal and equally capable.

There is absolutely no control interface for this device. How does anyone expect to enter the pin code for pairing that many of the devices sold require? It's sole bluetooth function is that you press the button until it automatically pairs with the only "bluetooth" device in range. What does that mean? There are many other bluetooth devices, and they have many different configuration parameters.

To complicate matters NaviPlay has taken a "mum's the word," attitude to ALL matters of its bluetooth implementation, they don't sell the sender and receiver separately because this isn't really a bluetooth device as much as it is being marketed with the tag line, they were trying for a wireless device until they discovered how cheap and easy it was to plug in a zeevo bluetooth chipset and market their B.S. "bluetooth" product. All they had to do was create a simple utility to reconfigure the firmware to manually select the types of devices it would pair with and supply manual PIN codes if neccessary. I could write the software myself in a week with the proper firmware images. Big thumbs down to Naviplay for having a real chance to build a bluetooth device for the iPod and blowing it.

Posted by SethG on March 17, 2005 at 7:32 PM (PDT) Comment 28

This is perhaps why people are questioning whether or not this is an advertisement for the NaviPlay. Because the article wasn't critical at all. It didn't seek to explore much of anything on the subject. Did they even think to ask whether it would work with the nearly standard equipment bluetooth in both Acura and BMW vehicles now days???

Posted by SethG on March 17, 2005 at 7:34 PM (PDT) Comment 29

I was hoping that this device would allow me to link my iPod to my BMW stereo, which has bluetooth for the phone, and control the ipod through the steering wheel controls. This is the ideal solution for me, it avoids wires, removal of large bits of the dashboard and expensive installation bills. Lets hope someone develops the technology and produces a product to make this as easy as owning an iPod

Posted by kickstart on April 12, 2005 at 1:58 AM (PDT) Comment 30

I got these and while I think thay are a bit pricey you can find them for less than retail in many places. I read some of the critical remarks here and have to disagree with much of what I am reading. Having tested them for a better part of a day now they seem to work seemlessly and serve a purpose for those who want to use their own audiophile headphones and not be attached to the ipod all the time, could they be better, I'm sure, would it have been nice to have an lcd, sure add another 50-75 bucks to the already high price! I would have designed the controls a little differantly, like a jog wheel i find to be totally useless and a pian in the butt. The button for play pause is so easily pushed down in the slightest manner it almost demands tha you utilize the lock function on the receiver. The gain also sucks, there is some sort of restriction due to overseas laws, so it will not ever get as loud as being hooked directly into the ipod. I am sure there is a hack to that but I'm not a tech, if anyone ever reads this and figures out how to do it by all means please contact me!

But the unit serves the purpose it was designed for and does so very very well.
I can use my er4p's with the remote and keep the ipod in my back pocket or in a backpack with having to be worried about the wires getting all over the place or ripped out of the ipod when my dog jumps up on me trying to get his ball, which has happen several times, sending the ipod flying or worse his paw gets tangles in the headset wire which either damages the wire or rips them out of my ear!

Now having said that the main reason I bought this little gadget was because I wanted to use them with my new bluetooth phone, not going to happen today!

I did download the firmware update for "all bluetooth enabled phones" and found that this part of the equation is not as seemless as the advertisement states. First doing the update to both the receiver and the adapter is a pain in the you know what and if your not too technologically adept you better be near a phone to talk to their tech people cause its not as easy as they state it is.

After I managed to get this bluetooth phone update in the units, an hour at least! I was really psyched to be able to use my new blue tooth samsung 730 to answer calls while listening to music since that unit does not allow bluetooth audio listening only headset phone support.

The phone reconized the receiver but did not allow it to be desginated as a hands free device. So I could not no matter what I did get the phone to reconize the receiver alert me by rings or answer calls while listening to the ipod.

very disappointing to say the least. The techs at ten felt the phone was reconizing the receiver as an audio componant and not a headset which might be the case but it appeared to be a headst on my computer so Im not sure that is the case. anyway they were very nice and told me they were going to work on seeing what can be done, but I have a feeling once their product is out there a bit more they are going to have a lot phone pairing problems and there will no doubt be many firmware updates for the various profiles of differant phones and blue tooth stacks out there.

Anyway the moral here is that right now the software might not reconize your phone but dont be disappointed they are working on it.

In the mean time just enjoy the product for the capabilities it does have and does very well at what it was designed for originaly.
Evebtually all will work out I am sure, its a fine product!

Posted by 3goldens on July 20, 2005 at 10:17 PM (PDT) Comment 31

People can also just leave the remote right in front of their CD Player and heard CD quality sound as a cheaper alternative to buying speakers.

Posted by 12345 on September 28, 2005 at 4:15 AM (PDT) Comment 32
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