"My friends just got minis, and boy they are ticked at Apple, they could return them but they want to keep the firewire cable and power adapter."

The new 4GB iPod mini is cheaper than the older one... You should tell them to return their iPods and get the new 4GB ones, plus a USB power adaptor, or both a FW cable and power adaptor. It would cost them about the same as the old 4GB mini wink

Posted by Mainyehc on February 25, 2005 at 7:25 PM (PDT) Comment 26

hmm, actually I don't really see what's the big fuss about not including the FW and the power adapter. So why don't just get it separately?

i think it's quite good to sell it this way. people who don't really see the need for the adapter can hence buy the mini at a cheaper price w/o paying for something they don't really need.

anyhoo, i'm quite frustrated that i just purchased the iPod shuffle 1Gb. for a bit more, i'd be able to purchase the mini. yes, the shuffle is a different type of player. but i think i made the wrong choice as i miss having a LCD and multiple playlists. o well. better and faster and cheaper it always will be. =(

Posted by Noeluap on February 25, 2005 at 8:56 PM (PDT) Comment 27

I just bought two 1G iPod minis last week, too. We decided to get them engraved because we thought, "why would we ever want to return them?"

Heh, well... it seems like a bad idea this week. At least Apple gave credited us the price difference, and at least I have an AC adapter+Firewire cable!

Must think positive!

Posted by notinusedelete on February 25, 2005 at 9:42 PM (PDT) Comment 28

personally, i think the new colors are too bright, the old colors were better... and i'm not sure how i feel about the matching clickwheel icon colors -- looks cheesey. but, the new and improved battery life is excellent. when it comes time for a new ipod, i won't get a mini... not unless they release better colors and drop the matching clickwheel aspect.

Posted by petro on February 26, 2005 at 8:50 AM (PDT) Comment 29

Hey Mainyehc, my friends returned their minis and got the new 6GB, they like it a lot better than their old ones

Posted by evilsquirrel on February 26, 2005 at 9:18 AM (PDT) Comment 30

Apple do everyone a favour, before releasing another product please add more features to an already outstanding product so people feel they are buying more than just a glorified HD-based mp3 player. No, I dont hate apple products, (have been a fan of apple for awhile now) but it seems to me that when it comes towards product features Apple doesnt give much thought.

Posted by ShawnM34 on February 26, 2005 at 9:42 AM (PDT) Comment 31

I am extremely pleased with the new 6 GB model with longer battery life. I did buy the power adapter and I don't need Firewire and don't want to pay for someone I don't need. The mini is marvelous for the gym too.

Posted by dfumento on February 26, 2005 at 5:25 PM (PDT) Comment 32

I was REALLY hoping for new colors. Like maybe jet black, or orange. The more colors, the more likly to sell.

Posted by tumblingwall on February 27, 2005 at 7:44 AM (PDT) Comment 33

hi! I just bought a new pink 4GB mini (although i'm not getting it till my birthday) and realized that I have an older Key-lime pie ibook G3... I'm positive she doesn't have a USB 2.0 port and was wondering what I need in order to run my new ipod on my older laptop... I have firewire cables but am not sure the minis are even equipped with firewire ports...

please help me, i'm soooo sad I may have to return my soon-to-be ipod mini!!


Posted by LilJennaBell on February 27, 2005 at 9:35 PM (PDT) Comment 34

Smorzander writes:
y know what i was just thinking... i didnt see any black fuzzies w/ the headphones... did apple cut them off too?

No, they are still included as shown in at least one photo in the iPod mini 6GB photo gallery:

Posted by AndyH on February 28, 2005 at 8:06 AM (PDT) Comment 35

I finally broke down and bought down a 4gb silver mini 2nd. gen.

I like to purchase a case right away, something shock resistant and simple design, plain colors.

Are the 1st and 2nd minis the same exact size?

Posted by convi on February 28, 2005 at 9:26 AM (PDT) Comment 36

like convi, i just purchased a 2G mini & am anxiously awaiting it's long-anticipated arrival raspberry

great article, thanks raspberry

Posted by nwistheone on February 28, 2005 at 12:01 PM (PDT) Comment 37

yes apple is kidding with this. hahahahah lets all have a hearty laugh. no, this just makes good sense in that most (yes most, look at the breakdown of windows to mac ipodders) folks are going have at least one of those cables sitting in a drawer unused. it sucks for those that have to buy the cable and/or powerpack but is it really that big of a deal? no. btw, my girlfriend loves her 1g mini.

Posted by zonk3r on February 28, 2005 at 3:32 PM (PDT) Comment 38

does the dock connector for a 3 or 4g ipod fit the mini? If it does could you just use that wall charger to charge the new mini?

Posted by Bucky on February 28, 2005 at 4:49 PM (PDT) Comment 39

It's funny cause the last time I looked at my windows pc it has both a firewire & a usb port on it. What was Apple thinking?

Secondly, it amazes me how the 1st gen mini could barely achieve the epa rating of 8hrs under extreme conditions (basically don't use the majority of functions and don't mess hoping around different songs) yet somehow in a "Back to the Future" scenenario the new 2nd gen mini exceeds the epa rating.

Posted by milk3pod on February 28, 2005 at 9:39 PM (PDT) Comment 40

To ChristMouse:
Yeah, I've heard its a popular color in the States. Surprisingly, Apple's decision to axe the gold from gen2 lineup is it wasn't popular. I think they can't make a 'gold'er gen2 mini.

The AppleCenter which I bought my iPod from still has 4 or 5 1st gen iPods left (pink and gold only).

They are having a stock clearance sale for these units, selling them for RM$899. (US$237, after tax). Its old price was RM$1199 (US$315 a.t.), which the 4GB gen2 mini now occupies.

The 1GB shuffle is sold for RM799, a RM$100 (US$26) difference!

To snazzle:
I did ask the same retailer about any swapping or rebates for 1st gen buyers. He said they're considering a rebate plan and will annouce soon.

FYI: Apple iPod products sold here at a conversion rate of approx. RM5 to US$1 (vs. exchange rate of RM$3.80). Retailer's excuse is taxes & shipping.

Posted by Augustus Thoo on March 1, 2005 at 3:08 PM (PDT) Comment 41

More colors may improve sales, but inevitably some colors get singled out as poor sellers causing resellers to rethink their stocking options (remeber the lime iMacs?)

Posted by Whyren on March 1, 2005 at 6:19 PM (PDT) Comment 42

my friend broke his 2g mini and has to get a new one, hes had 3

Posted by evilsquirrel on March 1, 2005 at 6:47 PM (PDT) Comment 43

The criticism that it's a poor value compared to the 20GB iPod, while not untrue, fails to take into account the appeal to low end buyers who really can only "afford" the shuffle, but hey - this mini has the screen, playlist support, quadruple the capacity, etc., for a mere $50 more. Think of it as the deluxe entry level model, not the compromised little sis.

Posted by lotion on March 1, 2005 at 9:23 PM (PDT) Comment 44

I'm Soooo egar to get my iPod mini. I have to wait till my birthday but im driving my parents crazy. Can't wait to get it. 4G Silver

Posted by dewthedew320 on March 2, 2005 at 5:21 PM (PDT) Comment 45

By Demosthenes on Feb 25, 05 12:31 pm

Apple also says the new mini won't work OR charge using USB 1. I bought one Wednesday and although slower than on USB 2, it works just fine--and charges too.


Posted by jackstone on March 4, 2005 at 7:18 AM (PDT) Comment 46


I can confirm the the new iPod mini works with powered USB 1.1 ports. I got a new mini and it charged fine on my iMac G3 USB 1.1 ports. Transferred songs, too.

Posted by Idgit on March 4, 2005 at 8:08 PM (PDT) Comment 47

On the question of wheter the mini is a good value. I have over 7000 songs on my computer, many more than a mini's capacity. My reasoning in buying a mini is simple. I dont need to carry all of my music at one time. I have no problem loading new songs onto it every morning. Another reason is that $300 or more for an iPod is too much money for me to spend, especially after seeing two of my freinds have their 20 and 40 gig ipods stolen.

Posted by HandsomeAndy on March 5, 2005 at 8:13 AM (PDT) Comment 48

i wonder if Demothenes got his name from the book, 'Ender's Game', it is a pretty good tech read

â–’pace is set by oathâ–’

Posted by clifton062 on March 6, 2005 at 4:58 PM (PDT) Comment 49

does anyone have a picture of the old pink mini compared to the new pink mini? i'm just wondering what the differences in color are for the pink. blue and green seem to be what everyone else is comparing.

Posted by ugagirl on March 7, 2005 at 11:25 AM (PDT) Comment 50
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