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Apple is definately draggin ### on their shipping for this device. I placed an order on 04/05/2005 07:47 AM PST... and got "est. ship on or before 04/19/2005".

Geez... this is rediculous...!!!

Posted by delikid on April 9, 2005 at 6:18 AM (PDT) Comment 61

Jeremy, thank you for the review. I have been trying to determine if the photo connector will work with the 40gb model and the 1.1 firmware update. I have a question that does not seem to have been addressed. Is it possible to shoot and store the image directly to the 40gb Photo Ipod. I have a Canon 10D that I use professionally and for that extra insurance I often shoot directly to my laptop, storing images both on it and on the compact flash card. That also gives me the option of checking the image for focus and lighting details. For those times that is inconvenient, is it possible to do that with the photo ipod? Second question; Is the photo ipod's resolution clear enough to determine focus and image details?

Thanks, Wayne

Posted by tenx100s on April 9, 2005 at 6:26 PM (PDT) Comment 62

I realize this is an IPOD site and there is a mild prejudice towards things Apple but after reading this entire review and comments I thought I would venture to suggest a product for those digital photographers who would like to travel w/o the computer but still be able to preview photos. SmartDisk makes the FlashTrax, a hard drive photo device with a 3.5 inch color screen. Like the Ipod it will connect to a TV but it has the advantage of NOT requiring a sync with the computer first. It also will download a CF card directly through its multireader port even if the device was turned off when the card is inserted. It also has a built in mp3 player that produces pretty decent sound. It is larger than an Ipod but much smaller than even the 12" G-4 that my son has. The screen folds down protecting it from some forms of unintended abuse. I have only had mine for less than a week so can not attest to all its strengths or weaknesses as all of these devices have. The build quality is acceptable although it does NOT have the artistic look of Apple products. You can find out more at: http://www.smartdisk.com/ if you are so inclined and http://www.bhphotovideo.com is a reputable place to obtain one.
I continue to be interested in the Ipod primarily for its small size and the hope it will allow shooting and saving directly to the device from the camera.

Posted by tenx100s on April 10, 2005 at 4:02 PM (PDT) Comment 63

Wayne,

You might want to try posting in dpreview.com's Storage & Media forum instead, if you don't get definitive answers for your question here.

I read that you can shoot while photos are being transfered, but I seriously doubt you can shoot and save to both in-camera CF card and the iPod Photo simultaneuosly. And given how slow the transfer speed is for the 10D, even if you can do what you ask, it probably wouldn't be quite that useful anyway.

Also, the iPod Photo's screen resolution is pretty pathetic, so don't expect to use it for any kind of focus/detail review -- it's far lower res than your 10D's own LCD, and doesn't allow zooming as far as I can tell.

I'm aware of the FlashTrax (and also Nikon Coolwalker among others), but like you say, they're a bit bulky. Since you're considering such devices, have you checked out the Epson P2000? It's got a great 3.8" screen that beats them all, if that's important to you, and also supports Canon RAW files although it won't let you zoom them. If you're just shooting JPEGs, then you can zoom for reviewing focus/details, but I doubt that you can shoot directly into the P2000 though. Try asking in dpreview.com to see.

Posted by LightOfTheWorld on April 12, 2005 at 12:00 AM (PDT) Comment 64

I hate to post and repost to a web site but I felt that I should update others on my recent experience with the aboce mentioned Smart Disk FlashTrax. The left (9 o'clock) portion of the rocker button would not "click" when pressed. I realize that is a small matter as long as it actuates the command but reliable function is a big deal especially when the device is for redundancy of storage of event photography. I became very uncomfortable over a switch that is easily quality checked. If that switch can be shipped then what about the internal components that are not so easily checked. Mind you, I was a manufacturing engineer in the not so distance past and even small defects have cost and consequences. Which explains why Toyota and Honda are so passionate about quality?

Anyways, checked dpreview.com site and had a difficult time finding much positive about the FlashTrax. WHile I think it may still be great for a casual shooter I need confidence building reliability. I called B&H Photo Video and asked to return it to them. They were awesome! I have never had a return but they once again demonstrated to me why I shop their site first.

I am still without a stand alone data storage device other than my laptop and burnable CD's. The Epson P2000 keeps coming up in recommendations to me and that may be where I look next. Sorry folks but the Ipod is way too slow and battery life too short with no means to recharge while downloading.

Posted by tenx100s on April 13, 2005 at 5:19 PM (PDT) Comment 65

Are there any plans to update the i-pod software so this can be used with 4G normal ipods? I'm sure there's still a lot of us out here who think viewing pictures on your i-pod is a useless gimmick, but being able to transfer from your camera and store pics on your ipod easily would be great.

Posted by geoluke on April 15, 2005 at 1:40 AM (PDT) Comment 66

Just got mine from the Buffalo Apple Store. Seems to work great- faster than I expected and fully compatible with my new Canon sd400.

Posted by dfbills on April 15, 2005 at 8:44 PM (PDT) Comment 67

only negative thing- goesn't recognize duplicates. You'll definitely want to delete your card after import. Otherwise, you'll end up importing the same photo sets many times.

Posted by dfbills on April 15, 2005 at 8:45 PM (PDT) Comment 68

I have just ordered my photo connector as another belt and brace back up solution. I already have the earliest incarnation of the Belkin Card reader which has seen good service and always take a laptop (12" iBook) on tour and location with me as the master store for images which flies in hand baggage.

I use my iPod in the field to take the pictures from a number of cameras using the belkin card reader.. (the set up can be seen in action in the "iPods around the world" photos under Madrid). The dock connector will I hope ensure that i can discreetly download images from the camera in places where it is beneficial to maintain a low profile, travelling ultra light or just in an awkward location with no space. The draw back is carrying a number of usb cables but there again i don't have to carry spare batteries and I always have a hire car and car charger close by. The set up works well and all my photos get home with a back up

I remain however frustrated that Apple insist if we wish to use the photo display features of the iPod to present the images we must still use the computer. This becomes an impossibility for many as my main photo library is on the desktop G4 I write from whilst i keep my iBook simply to mule photos and video from location to base and put on CD, there is no room on the drive for frivolities such as a duplicate iPhoto library. In order to display the images gained from my camera connector my iBook will remove the photos already loaded. For god sake why can't Apple see there are many photographers who will own both desktop and laptop.. ( they benefit financialy from this) so why can't more than one computer contribute image sets to the photo library on the iPod Photo. or at least have a manual sync like that which iTunes allows mutli computers to fill an ipod with music (which if you can read the iPod Music Folder in effect makes a complete humbug of the anti music priracy roots of the reasons for this feature). If Apple could make music sharing as difficult as photo sharing they might actually have cracked piracy but i dont see them trying it... If Apple want to make the iPod Photo a serious tool rather than a gimmick they need get this one sorted

Posted by iPodista on April 16, 2005 at 3:06 AM (PDT) Comment 69

Does the photo connector act as a mini dock? That is, can you use it to connect to a pc or mac using an ordinary usb cable?

Posted by goya on April 17, 2005 at 5:45 AM (PDT) Comment 70

I've succesfully downloaded my 512mb compact flash card via a cheap USB2 card reader /writer into my 60GB i pod photo via the apple camera connector and it appears faster than hooking it up to my camera , an olympus C8080 and thus with no camera battery drain.

Posted by philandwendy on April 23, 2005 at 2:30 PM (PDT) Comment 71

Hi, philandwendy.

Can you tell us which card reader you used? And what was the transfer speed?

Thanks much...

Posted by LightOfTheWorld on April 24, 2005 at 11:28 AM (PDT) Comment 72

Hi,

I recently purchased the i-Pod photo 30GB and the Camera Connector.

However when I connect my digital camera (Olympus supported by the camera connector as per http://www.apple.com/ipod/compatibility/cameraconnector.html), I am not able to transfer the photos. I do not get the PHOTO IMPORT Option on the i-Pod screen. I only get option to views photos transferred from my Laptop using i-Tunes.

Can someone please tell me as to what might be the issue and how to resolve the same.

Any help will be appreciated. My email ID is .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Thanks in Advance.

Best Regards,
Sanji

Posted by Sanjibon on April 26, 2005 at 7:19 AM (PDT) Comment 73

Sanji

As you just bought your iPod i dont know if you checked if you have downloaded and installed the latest ipod system software update that is needed for the photo loading option, that the update introduced to enable the photo dock connector, to work. If your computer is an apple just hit the software update menu which is below the blue apple logo on the top lh corner in the menu bar

Posted by iPodista on April 26, 2005 at 4:50 PM (PDT) Comment 74

Well just received my Apple camera connector and giving a good test.

I bought a USB 2.0 card reader from Maplin the UK (Product code: A23CN) and it works a treat! I did try several in the shop and this was the only one that worked.

I just filled up my 1GB PQI 45X SD Card with one movie using my Nikon Coolpix 5200 (a camera not listed in the compatibility list, even though it works fine when using it directly with the connector although its only USB 1.0 so thats why I bought the Hi-Speed reader)

It took 29.018 Mins to transfer the 974MB .mov file (1750.8 secs)so:

TRANSFER RATE WAS 1MB = 1.78 secs

The only drawback.....The ipod was fully charged at the beginning of the transfer and dropped down to a tiny segment of red by the end of the transfer.

When the Ipod charges up again I will run the same test with it hooked up to my camera instead of the reader.

Posted by djrobmac on April 27, 2005 at 2:25 AM (PDT) Comment 75

I have two questions:
1. Does somebody know if the Camera Connector is compatible with a 4G iPod 20 GB? When I installed the latest iPod Updater, a 'photo import' item has been added to the menu. You can toggle this menu item on or off in the main menu by going to 'settings>main menu>photo import'.
2. Can you import RAW photo's as well?

Posted by Poekie on May 3, 2005 at 5:45 AM (PDT) Comment 76

Has anyone tested it on a Nikon 5200? I have one but it doesn't seem to work with my iPod photo, disappointed!

I plugged in the photo connector, connected my camera, turned it on, selected Photo Import, but nothing happened except for a blank screen. Am I not doing something right? Would appreciate it if someone can shed light on this, thanks!

Posted by roqchic on May 3, 2005 at 6:29 PM (PDT) Comment 77

can anyone tell me how they got their 10D & iPod photo to talk?

my 10D has v2.0.1 of firmware & Normal or PTP communication
brand new ipod photo 60Gb & a camera connector
but when I go to photo import the ipod just sits there blankly!

how did you guys get it to start downloading?

Posted by TiggerTiger on May 5, 2005 at 3:04 AM (PDT) Comment 78

TiggerTiger, that's exactly the problem I'm facing with my Nikon5200. It's just a blank screen when Photo Import is selected. Still have no luck resolving...

Posted by roqchic on May 5, 2005 at 7:25 PM (PDT) Comment 79

TiggerTiger and Roqchic,

Have you tried updating the firmware already? As I understand it, you need a firmware update for the connector to work -- IIRC, it was mentioned in the review (and in some posts here). Figures, right? grin

Posted by LightOfTheWorld on May 5, 2005 at 8:19 PM (PDT) Comment 80

Works with Canon PowerShot G2.

Posted by sanbarry on May 10, 2005 at 1:53 PM (PDT) Comment 81

Today I tested my new iPod Camera connector and got better results than the tests done here. I assume this is because of the different camera I used.

Results:
* 15 MB per minute transfer
* iPod battery drained from full to 2/3 during transfer, and down to 1/2 after also scanning thumbnails to confirm transfer, but rebounded to 80% as soon as the connector was detached.
* camera battery reported full before the transfer (123 shots had already been taken with it), and still reported full afterwards.

Photos transferred:
* 123 photos taking up 211 MB
* The transfer took 14 minutes

Equipment:
* iPod Photo, 60 GB
* Canon G6 camera (this camera has v. good battery life, as witness these results)
* SanDisk 1GB CF card (_not_ a high-speed card)
* Apple Camera Connector

I am very pleased as this is much better than I had expected from this and other reviews. Dedicated devices like the Epson P2000 can do better, but I already had the iPhoto, so this saves me $470. I never take more than 600 MB of photos during the day, so I can just do a transfer at the hotel in the evening.

My Lexar Multi-card reader was not compatible.

Posted by GadgetFan on May 24, 2005 at 4:03 PM (PDT) Comment 82

GadgetFan,

I guess it all depends on how you expect to use it.

To me, it makes more sense to spend that $30 toward a dedicated storage device -- not the expensive Epson P2000 unless you're also satisfied w/ using that for music (and video) instead of an iPod w/ color screen. You can easily buy such devices for <=$80 and put in whatever laptop HDD yourself. Of course, that does mean lugging an extra item w/ you just for this. OR if you really don't shoot that much, why not just buy some more CF cards w/ the $30 instead?

Anyway, normally, I'd think one might not have quite enough battery power by the end of a long day to transfer a significant amount of photos to the iPod w/out having to do some recharging, but maybe that's just me.

But yeah, if you're only gonna be tied up for 15min and have enough power to do the transfers, then that's not too bad for very occasional use on vacations, etc. Still, it's pretty clear though that you're probably not making full use of your G6 if the photo files are only averaging ~1.7MB each. If you shoot in RAW mode, I'd expect that to jump way up to ~7MB. And in best quality JPEG mode, it should be ~2.5MB for a photo w/ plenty of well-lit details (to be expected in most daylight outdoor scenes for instance).

Anyway, I did buy the 60GB iPod since my last post, but I will pass on the camera connector. Undecided just yet on what to get for offloading photos during trips, but it'll probably be something between the new Nexto OTG device (very long battery life and extremely fast at upto a claimed ~15MB/sec! and tested by users so far for 9-10MB/sec w/ Sandisk Ultra 2, which was actually the bottleneck!), a Compactdrive PD70X (the newest one w/ claimed ~9MB/sec transfer, very long battery life and uses AA batteries) or just get a cheap, new laptop for wider range of usage.

The various dedicated storage devices I mentioned are just for portable storage, not displaying photos. You can always put photos onto your iPod for viewing purposes later -- it's really meant to work like an album of thumbnail photos anyway given the small display, so it's hardly significant when they get put on the iPod. I tried putting a bunch on it via iTunes, and many of them look very low quality anyway due to the low resolution screen -- nothing to get too excited about. If you're expecting a good digital photo album on-the-go, then you'll still have to spend the $$$ on something like the Epson P2000 or maybe the new Archos AV700 w/ its 7"(!) widescreen. grin

Posted by LightOfTheWorld on May 24, 2005 at 8:03 PM (PDT) Comment 83

Speaking of dedicated portable storage, this one w/ 30GB HDD only costs $80(!).

Posted by LightOfTheWorld on May 24, 2005 at 8:11 PM (PDT) Comment 84

Don't know if this has been covered yet, but the connector works with:
1. Nikon D70 camera
2. ZiO! compact flash reader

Posted by Longhorn on June 7, 2005 at 10:53 AM (PDT) Comment 85
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