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As much as I like the way this thing looks, at $39.99 for something without any sort of line out or video functionality, isn't this just a little bit overpriced for an A- rating?

Posted by Popjunkie on April 25, 2005 at 3:14 AM (PDT) Comment 1

No. As we've noted in A- rated product reviews in the past, we sometimes allocate this grade to a product that falls shy of an A only because of pricing as compared with other options. We feel pretty comfortable saying that any one who can live with the price and gets one of these will be happy with it.

Posted by Jeremy Horwitz on April 25, 2005 at 9:05 AM (PDT) Comment 2

What brand is the flowered case in the photo? It would help when there's another product in the in-use photos to have a caption or notation in the text as to what other product is that's shown. In this instance it looks like a useful case but there's so many case offerings out there, it's not easily identifiable. It'd be nice to know what it is. Thanks.

Posted by bp003 on April 29, 2005 at 11:03 AM (PDT) Comment 3

Then Jeremy how do you justify giving the Vaja I-volution an A rating if you are so conscious of pricing? While I really like that case, it also costs double what this stand does (not to mention most cases), and to tell me that they aren't gouging is an insult to my intelligence. While I agree with the saying "you get what you pay for" the ipod premium thing abuses it to death. The "if it's white, double the price" mentality has me disgusted. What's worse is this website just shrugs it off saying that's life. Are you here to review ipod-related products, or act as a rubber stamp? It feels like your obligation as reviewers only goes so far when you should be pressuring them instead of giving them a minor point deduction (but only sometimes as we see) because hey, its not your money right? Just going with it is a cop out. I seriously wonder sometimes if this site cares anything about the wallets of its readers. But that's just my 2 cents.

Posted by KingKikapu on April 29, 2005 at 12:27 PM (PDT) Comment 4

King: I share your regret that iPod-specific products are so much pricier than their "generic" counterparts. But I think your critique is unfair. The Vaja case got an A, it seems to me, because it's superior in more or less every way to any similar offerings. The iPed2 is not: it lacks functionality that direct competitors possess. It seems to me that, when a product is better than all others in more or less every way, it is no mark against it (although certainly not for it either) that it costs more than the others as well. On the other hand, a product that has some shortcomings ought to reflect it in the price, and this adjustment seems to be missing, to some extent, in the iPed2's pricing. So the critique is more apt here than in the case of the Vaja case.

That being said, I bought the iPed2 as soon as I saw the review here (interestingly enough, so that I wouldn't have to remove the iPod from its i-Volution in order to dock it. It seems to be of very high quality, was easy to set up, and performs and looks great on my desk. I think this review is spot on.

My only warning is to those who use USB to connect their iPod to their computers (or power adapter). The iPed is designed with a hole sized so that the Dock Connector-end will not fit through, but the FireWire end will, so that it doesn't fall through (and behind your desk) when iPod is away. It's fairly clear, though, that the hole was designed with the Firewire connector in mind, since that connector fits through perfectly. It took a considerable deal of work to get the USB end through the rubber stopper lining the hole--I was just shy of resorting to skimming off some of the rubber with my pocket knife.

Again, though, I think the review is right on, and I think the stand is great.

Posted by kachooney on May 3, 2005 at 4:26 PM (PDT) Comment 5

kachooney

I wish you had contacted me! There is a simple solution to using the USB cable. You need to simply remove the grommet, place the connector thru the grommet then place the grommet back in its hole.

If anyone has any questions of our products I would love to answer them.

Thanks
Mike Talmadge

Posted by thoughtout.biz on May 7, 2005 at 2:43 PM (PDT) Comment 6

bp003: It's a Kimono case from Miyavix, one of our favorites.

King: To come to that conclusion, I think you'd have to ignore virtually every one of our reviews that mentions the word "pricey," which if you searched (especially including synonyms) would be a lot. We don't shrug off pricing in the slightest, and we're amongst very few product reviewing sites out there to take pricing into account whatsoever. Still, that doesn't mean that it's all-important. It's a concern to be considered in context.

Why is this? First, we're not presumptuous enough to assume that all of our readers have small budgets and will frown on spending $30, $50, or more on something they know they want. If that was the case, this site would be DellDJlounge or devoted to some other budget music player, and the only products worthy of A's would be cheap.

Second, if you make something truly special in all regards, we don't get as worked up about the price. The i-Volution is simply the finest leather iPod case we've seen, and its design, quality of workmanship, and numerous other factors make it worthy of its asking price - more worthy than, say, Piel Frama's more expensive Luxurious Case (see the review).

Third, as pertains this specific product, find me another iPod stand for this price that can be re-sized to accommodate any model from 1G to photo to mini, each one in case or out of case, and adjusts to the angle of your preference. If it looks this nice and feels this solid, we want to know about it. But I don't think you'll find it. At best you'll find stands that hold one model of iPod, typically without a case (excepting a couple models, which are about the same price as this one). And they'll cost $25-$30 each. See where I'm going with this?

Posted by Jeremy Horwitz on May 8, 2005 at 2:23 AM (PDT) Comment 7
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