I made my HP headphones comfortable by doubling up the earpad foam. The headphones came with an extra pair of foamies, and I just stacked the extra ones on top of the existing ones. Night and day difference. If these Logitech phones are the same, then this will do the trick.

Posted by Brett Versaso on June 22, 2005 at 8:07 AM (PDT) Comment 1

It kinda sucks that NaviPlay gets top billing. I mean, if I wanted something attached to my phones while hanging around my neck, I'd just buy an iPod shuffle. That's a little too geeky. And MacAlly's phones look ridculous. Who--over age 21--would wear those...anywhere? These look slick and ideal for casual use. I'm sick of cords.

I'm still waiting for an iMuffs review (and one other, I forget the name), but these are in the top spot for me now.

Posted by Gordy. on June 22, 2005 at 9:00 AM (PDT) Comment 2

naviPlay isn't the ideal wireless solution - there's plenty of room for improvement - but it does stand out, especially after using the other options. It's the most fully featured as a Bluetooth device (with phone compatibility, a built-in mic, etc), can work with a stereo or headset, includes a control pad, and has rechargeable batteries. It's a "best of" option given everything else that's been released to date.

The story would be significantly different if someone had released really spectacular Bluetooth earphones - super comfortable, great sounding, etc. at the $150 price point. For right now, using your own phones with the naviPlay is the most comfortable way to go wireless from your iPod.

Posted by Jeremy Horwitz on June 22, 2005 at 9:54 AM (PDT) Comment 3

Does anyone know if something like this or another product could be used with a PowerBook? I'd like something I could use on my iPod and my PowerBook. I'd be really cool it worked with the PowerBook's built in Bluetooth.

Posted by MegaSmack on June 22, 2005 at 10:55 AM (PDT) Comment 4

Shame about the sound quality, hopefully these will fit me! So far they seem to cheapest for the type - i'm looking for a back-of-neck, wireless, integrated remote option, that looks cool. I must say these look better than the more expensive iMuffs.
I wonder what I'll be getting for my birthday...

ps OK, I am 15, and I probably won't wear these after age 21. But hey, that's 6 years away!

Posted by peterburk on June 22, 2005 at 11:05 AM (PDT) Comment 5

i don't understand why everything's so large? if Bluespoon can make a BT headset that's the size of a quarter, why can't another company? and if super small cell phones can fit the BT hardware in their headsets along with everything else, why are the top add-ons for ipods so large!?
it's a great idea, but i'd prefer to have small headphones like my shure in-ears. i also wouldn't want some donk piece of plastic on the top of my ipod. if it were half an inch tall and more streamline, that'd be different.
when they come out with something like that, i'll buy it. until then... it seems like a horrible option.

Posted by mdwsta4 on June 22, 2005 at 12:13 PM (PDT) Comment 6

Jeremy, I guess 'comfort' is relative. To me carrying something with the bulk of an iPod--instead of an iPod--for the sake of being wireless is of no benefit. I can even condsider that I can use my own phones, since I have to figure out how to carry NaviPlay in addition to an iPod. Portability is what I'm looking for here.

I think this product should be excluded from the MacAlly, Logitech, and other headphone products reviewed, since they opted to build the receiver into a headphone form. If there is no clear winner, so be it, but the NaviPlay doesn't even compare IMHO. It should be compared to Griffin's BlueTrip--which is cheaper BTW.

This the only issue I take with the otherwise excellent review.

Posted by Gordy. on June 22, 2005 at 5:10 PM (PDT) Comment 7

Walt Mossberg of the Wall Street Journal also just reviewed these headphones.-

In a nutshell, he thinks they are INTOLERABLY uncomfortable for extended use and does NOT recommend them.

Posted by dave123456 on June 22, 2005 at 9:29 PM (PDT) Comment 8

The naviPlay isn't an iPod in size or weight - it's both lighter and smaller, unless you're using a mini or iPod shuffle. If you're looking for "portability," the difference with these is that you're wearing the naviPlay receiver's weight on your ears instead, and you feel the pressure of the speakers and headband on your head at all times. If that sounds comfortable to you, then by all means give these a try.

We'll compare naviPlay to BlueTrip (and Belkin's similar offering TuneStage) when those products are out, but naviPlay is wearable - neither of those forthcoming products are. And to ignore a comparison between these and Macally's headphones, which are almost identical products but for Macally's more cushioned earcups, audio-out port, and less iPod control, would be nonsensical. Logitech's earphones may be sportier-looking, but they're inherently very similar.

Posted by Jeremy Horwitz on June 23, 2005 at 12:53 AM (PDT) Comment 9


You mention in the review that HP is selling iPAQ Bluetooth (naviplay compatible) headphones for $99 bundled with the naviplay for $50. Where are you getting that information?
When I look at HP's Shopping site, it looks as though they are selling the Naviplay for $139. Separately, you can buy their iPAQ headphones for $99, so you're out $238 on the whole deal. $150 for the Logitech's seems like a heal of a lot better deal, especially when you're not getting the naviplay necklace receiver that adds a lot of functionality to the naviplay.
If I could get the Naviplay with the necklace receiver AND the HP iPAQ headphones for about $239, I'd be a happy camper. Until something better and affordable comes along, I'm sticking with my Bluetake I-Phono's.

Posted by zacharysmay on June 23, 2005 at 2:47 PM (PDT) Comment 10

I would love to see more of other BT headsets reviewed.
Especially, iCombi which looks very usefull to me.


Prinston BTST9000

Posted by panyoshiba on August 26, 2005 at 8:48 PM (PDT) Comment 11

Anyone know where you could some on? (i.e. does the Apple store have any, other computer stores, etc.

Posted by iBode on September 14, 2005 at 6:18 PM (PDT) Comment 12

Actually, I find them to fit me like a glove. I love them and find that the 30 foot listening radius is more than enough for me. I know that my local Apple Store has them for the MSRP, but I purchased mine from the classified section of the site for $70. A well spent $70, in my mind.

Posted by azn1stknightsoul on October 6, 2005 at 12:43 AM (PDT) Comment 13

I agree that these aren't perfect, but I was able to get a pair for $30...$80 on the Office Depot website and $50 off with a mail in rebate back in January (Google it! It's good until March 30). Can't beat going wireless for that price!

Posted by campmgirl on February 15, 2006 at 10:01 PM (PDT) Comment 14

WOW!!! WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP!!! What a huge disappointment! Mine completely broke in half in less than 3 months. I only used it for about an hour 4x a week and completely split in half. Save your money!!!

Posted by NATURAL JOCK on April 14, 2006 at 12:05 PM (PDT) Comment 15

There was a really great deal through Office Depot a few weeks ago, so I said what the heck! I can handle throwing away the $18.50 to become unteathered at work n stuff. I really don't like how uncomfortable they are, but I'm still trying other things to make them better (like extra padding). I keep you posted--still a great idea, sure to be the future of the iPod.

Posted by mattman770 on April 28, 2006 at 11:31 AM (PDT) Comment 16

i really like them, they are really comfortable and the price is ok. I use them whit my Ipod Nano. If you want to listen in style them but them now!

Posted by sinan on May 8, 2006 at 7:05 AM (PDT) Comment 17

The breaking mentioned by Natural Jock is a well-documented problem with these headsets. In fact, Logitech has even set up a special support number for folks wishing to get replacements or refunds for their broken headsets. There were rumors that the product was being redesigned to fix the problem, but when I called mine in a couple of weeks ago the very helpful agent told me the redesign didn't really help.

It's shame, really. For the most part I enjoyed these while I had them. The control scheme was brilliant, and I thought they sounded fine to me. Also, I never experienced any dropping of signal in my tests, which included walking to the printer some 40 feet from my office.

The comfort & fit are the big problems. I really hope Logitech's engineers are looking at how to leverage their excellent electronics into a more flexible headset.

Posted by Fangorn on June 5, 2006 at 4:40 PM (PDT) Comment 18

The price you pay for these headphones is NOT worth the amount of time you actually get to use them. I was extremely careful with them, but they cracked within about a month of usage!

I'm going to have it out with Logitech. This could defintely be considered a manufacturer defect!

Posted by HoneyBunny on August 15, 2006 at 10:16 PM (PDT) Comment 19
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