Just wanted everyone to know that I am already on my 2nd 60GB Black 5G iPod and it seems as though this one doesn't show the Large Battery icon when plugged into a USB2 port either. The first 5G came in the mail this past wed and exibited 2 dead pixels and wouldn't take a charge (fyi it came formatted as a Windows iPod.) Took it to the Soho Apple store yesterday and they confirmed (with an AC adapter) that in fact it was bad and replaced it immediately. Got home made sure the firmware was up to date, plugged it into my USB2 Adaptec card equipped Powermac G4 and then went to bed. When I got up to leave for work this morning I noticed that there was still "no large battery charging icon" in the center of the screen so then I ejected it, waited 20 sec plugged it back in, waited a few minutes and still NOTHING!!!!! Brought it to work with me and plugged it into one of our BRAND NEW Dual 2.3GHZ Powermac G5's USB2 ports and still NOTHING!!! It might in fact be receiving a charge to some degree but there is no LARGE battery icon to confirm that. One last thing this one came with a few fine scratches after I peeled the plastic off of it but NO dead pixels...really disapointed that I am already on my 2nd 5G iPod in the same week that might need to get replaced again. What do you guys think I should do (besides call Apple and get stuck on the phone for 2 hours?)

Posted by 520 Films on October 21, 2005 at 8:00 AM (PDT) Comment 41

hoho, please stop with the caps.

To have firewire support you need to have a costly and clunky part inside the ipod. Most people don't use firewire, so it got left out in order to make the ipods thin.

USB2.0 is not that slow, the only people that suffer from this are the mac users who have no USB2.0 support. But it is for the greater good.

The top port I suspect I know why it was removed. Apple created a "made for ipod" program and upped the percentage they get from each accessory sold to 10%. (a market that is growing and worth hundreds of millions of dollars)

It's a business move that virtually guarantees they profit in a big way from the ipod economy they created.

Posted by webby on October 21, 2005 at 8:16 AM (PDT) Comment 42

520 films,

milk it for all its worth

keep going back (although ist a pain) till you get a good one,

thats what i did with the 4G.

sooner or latter you'll get a good one.

(but keep it going in the replacment time period or you'll just get screwed)

P.S. dont bother with the phone

Posted by Apple_iPod on October 21, 2005 at 10:43 AM (PDT) Comment 43

I happen to have a Zen Vision and I disagree with several of the review's comparisons. The 3.7 inch, 640 X 480 screen on the Zen, does not "shimmer" and is, in fact, far superior to the Apple's display. Try viewing a widescreen movie on the iPod vs. the Zen. The Zen also outputs up to 480i composite making video output to a TV screen far superior to the iPod. I've also connected the "tv out" (which is on the Zen unit itself, not the dock) to the "video in" on a portable DVD player and the display quality is excellent. The Zen acting as a high quality "video vault" is a very handy feature indeed.
Audio output is superior on the Zen. I've done very careful A-B comparisons using various models of Sennheisers. The Zen has an FM radio and, as mentioned, user-replaceable battery packs.
The one advantage of the IPod is a 60 GB hard disk, that part is true. The Zen has a very easy to use interface, though again, I'd give the scroll wheel interface on the iPod the edge on ease of use. If I would give a number rating, the iPod would come in at a 7 and the Zen would be an 8.

Posted by jimguy05 on October 21, 2005 at 12:28 PM (PDT) Comment 44

No belt clip...

Posted by :3 on October 21, 2005 at 5:23 PM (PDT) Comment 45

i like to snowboard/skateboard and ive been a lifetime apple user and i had a previous 20gb 4g when the lcd screen kindaf penetrated i recently go a 4gb black nano and a week later the new ipod came out with what i might do is return the nano so that i can get the 30gb ipod for 30 bucks extra...that way i can watch all my video clips of me snowboarding on it...also i dont know if i should snowboard with it because i heard the ipod is like a hard drive and that if u shake it it skips so its not good for snowboarding IM CONFUSED WITH THAT! CAN I SNOWBOARD WITH MY NEW IPOD?

Posted by snwbrdr on October 21, 2005 at 5:28 PM (PDT) Comment 46

People keep saying the 3G came with way more accessories - keep in mind that it was also much more expensive? When I bought my 3G 20g it was over $600CAD (that was only 6 months before the 4G came out), when I bought my 4G 20g it was over $450CAD, and now the 5G 30g will cost me around $420CAD, which isn't too bad. I could've gotten a dock for $50 when I bought the 4g and $30 for a case and it'd still be cheaper than the 3g and I think those two accessories were the only difference.

Posted by cutehinano on October 21, 2005 at 5:28 PM (PDT) Comment 47

@$20 Films

Um.... if its charging you should see a lightning bolt symbol on the battery in the top right corner. If you want to get the Big battery symbol. While the iPod is plugged in Just hold Play for a few secs to power down your ipod. Then the Large Icon should pop up.

Posted by s0ymilk on October 21, 2005 at 5:57 PM (PDT) Comment 48

Enough with all the talk about video! smile How about more info on the photo side of things. If I have photos synced to a 4G iPod photo, will iTunes resample them from my iPhoto library up to the resolution of the 5G iPod? Or will the 5G just scale the photos up to it's screen resolution. More importantly, if I'm syncing both a 4G iPod photo and a 5G iPod (with video), will iTunes have to keep two versions of all my photos, or will one iPod have to scale the photos to display on the screen? If iTunes has to resample my iPhoto library every time I switch between the 4G and 5G that would really suck! Finally, 5G photos look better on the iPod's screen, but what about on a TV?

Posted by ender on October 21, 2005 at 8:56 PM (PDT) Comment 49

Does the video out on the iPod to t.v. look good???
Does iTunes scale down video resolution for iPod viewing? Or do you have to do it manually?

Posted by sno_cat219 on October 21, 2005 at 10:04 PM (PDT) Comment 50

wow..great review!

just a you have to download videos from itunes or can you upload your own stuff?...i don't really get it.

first time ipod user!

Posted by cube on October 21, 2005 at 10:37 PM (PDT) Comment 51


Good to see that some of the audio problems have been addressed.

What about stuttering though. As you probably known both the 2G mini and the Nano stutters badly when playing back problem tracks encoded with LAME VBR.

Does the 5G iPod STUTTER?

Posted by sehested on October 22, 2005 at 12:20 AM (PDT) Comment 52

i was listening to the ilaunge ipod podcast- i think it is very critical and very reasonable!
yes you can use your stuff, i have 70 movies on my hard drive and i have used Xilisoft Video Converter to convert from normal video formats to Quiqe time.
i have ordered it and i am prepared for it with all my movies. i think the screen is not that small and it is very and i think it will be comfortable to use. If you think about it, if your really bored you will watch anything to keep you alive.
the resolution on the ipod is very packed, which is great its because it has around the same as a regular tv (not home sinima-lol).
also the cool new RAM card 64mb which is 2X as used to be 32mb. Which means will search faster and play videos without skipping and slow going.
i also think the flash memory speed has been also increased.

i ordered black 60GB - good luck with yours!

i trust the ipod i have the 15GB 3rd gen and i was using it for almost 2 and half years and never crashed!

Sorry for spelling mistakes I am not English.

Posted by arsenij on October 22, 2005 at 5:08 AM (PDT) Comment 53

Great review hats off to jeremy
although the 5g ipod is great and all the battery life for videos really isnt that great and nor is the screen size for watching videos as far as watching movies goes im gonna stcik to my psp and psp video 9 conversion software its easy and affective the quality is great and its pretty portable i have a 2 hour bus ride home and i get to watch a movie on each ride it is the best past time if i dont feel like watching a movie then i pull out my burnout legends
im not really trying to bad mouth the ipod though its great i love my 30gb photo and i dont really see i point to upgrade it to the 5g ipod. to end this comment for video stick to the psp but for music ipod is the way to go

Posted by amad on October 22, 2005 at 11:12 PM (PDT) Comment 54

Snwbrdr, yes you can snowboard with a 5G iPod, yes it has a hard drive, just as your old 20GB 4G iPod had a hard drive, so if you skated and snowboarded with that and never had any troubles, you should be fine. In theory, the hard drive does have the potential to skip, but it would have to be shaken/bashed constantly for a good 25-30 minutes, so it's not really ever going to happen. I ski with my 20GB 4G and have never had any problems, even when I've fallen on or close to where it is (would hate to stack on a rail onto my iPod though), but I always keep it in a case. Hope that answers your query.

Posted by Nuke666 on October 22, 2005 at 11:19 PM (PDT) Comment 55

Okay, help me out people...

I was very excited to get my 5G iPod two days ago, but I cannot get the thing to play video! I have not tried any of the videos iTunes had to offer; I have been using my own files converted with Total Video Converter which already had a "video iPod" setting for its conversions. It plays them *sometimes*, but rarely - it's very moody! Usually the screen just goes blank and after a minute it goes back to the menu, like, "Yeah, I know what you're telling me to do, but I don't feel like it - choose something else". It has only played two video files successfully, and will not play them again no matter how I beg and plead.

The comments here seem to be mostly from people who don't have the video iPod (yet), but if anybody does have one and has been playing their own converted files, I'd be interested to know if they had any problems. I kinda want to take this one back anyway - I wanted a black one but neither Best Buy or the Apple store had the 60gb in yet.

The files i'm trying to play are about 28-42 minutes long. The two files it did play successfully were about 35 minutes, while it would not play a 6-minute one. If that means anything. But I'm thinking if it played them once it should play them twice...

Thanks in advance for any help at all...

Posted by CountessCoolout on October 23, 2005 at 10:35 AM (PDT) Comment 56

I am using Itunes at the moment to manage my music files and playlists which I got together with Quicktime 7 and I think its a great program!!.

I do not have an Ipod and will be planning to get the Ipod(5g) soon. So when I do get the Ipod must I uninstall itunes and install everything from the cd that comes with the ipod package or can I just install the ipod drivers and then sync my ipod straight to the version of itunes that I got with Quicktime 7?

Please someone reply for I do not want to lose all my playlists and the songs which I have renamed in itunes. Thanks alot.

Posted by breakdown090447500 on October 23, 2005 at 7:20 PM (PDT) Comment 57

As I recall, this is not intended to be "the" video iPod. Sure it has video capabilities, but Apple never intended this iPod to be a fully working video iPod. Besides why complain, it has support for one of the best codecs, which create's great resolution and small file size's.

Posted by Clowdx on October 23, 2005 at 10:51 PM (PDT) Comment 58


Not true. The new iTrip for doc connector has a mini-USB port that can be used for charging at the same time.

Posted by Countach on October 23, 2005 at 11:50 PM (PDT) Comment 59

Good review, balanced and informative. One slight correction though, the Belkin Digital Camera Link doesn't use Firewire, it Hosts the iPods via USB 1.1. We don't know what changes were made in the 5G to remove this compatibility.

Posted by Doog_K on October 24, 2005 at 4:12 AM (PDT) Comment 60

My wife just told me it arrived this mornig. I´m quite excited about it, after everythig I read I think this ipod has everything I need. I think I see it from the good point of view, cose what i want is a great audio player, that records music as a big plus, and that on top has a good enough color screen that will allow me to see pictures and videos from time to time (maybe 5% of the time at most), I wouldn´t want an bigger screen at the expense of bigger unit size or cost. So better audio player + thinner&lighter; + audio recording + longer lasting batery + bigger and more detailed screen for the same price = are you kidding???? it looks unbelievable if only we didn´t know is true.
The only negative point (not a small one)for me is that the took out the wall charger, c´ammon guys aren´t you selling a portable player ??, but if you are supose to take the computer along with you for the weekend at the beach or mountain, where is the portability anymore???.
I join the request for a AQ comparison between Shuffle and 5th gen Ipod.
And thanks for the great review Ilonge

Posted by felobom on October 24, 2005 at 5:13 AM (PDT) Comment 61

Apple are getting there,
My ideal device is a Archos AV 500 with PDA compatabilities, but built by Apple.
They could have a dual screen iPod, by using the back as a video screen, but for now i'll stick with my 3G.
Keep up the good work iLounge,

Posted by PN on October 24, 2005 at 7:41 AM (PDT) Comment 62

CountessCoolout, I got mine Friday last. used Videora to convert movies. The default Mpeg4/768k/128k setting worked fine. no luck with h264 coz it wont transfer to ipod. And i cant convert wmv files.
Everything was perfect with it, except I got two white dead pixels on the ipod's screen. Apple said they dont cover less than 3 pixels. I found an article saying that more than 1 white pixel should be covered. Told them. Went to leave it at an AppleCare centre, who didnt even know that 5g was out here in singapore. They said they cant replace it coz they dont hav it in stock. They took it and said they get me one as soon as they get it. But the online store had it !@#$% So they'll either get me one someday, or will get me mine back all scratched!!! :s
I'll be hating Apple till they get me a new iPOD. Although I got to test it one day n nite only, any questions plz ask.

Posted by beatoven on October 24, 2005 at 10:36 AM (PDT) Comment 63

Just got my new Ipod Video today (black). I have been holding out, and am glad I did. I cannot say enough good things about this thing. In a word.... awesome. Simply amazing. I hooked this thing up to my home stereo using the (not included) AV cables and was amazed. The only thing that I have noticed thus far, is that with even limited play, the battery power is not going to last anywhere near the 15 hours suggested by Apple. I'm guessing more like 7 hours. But that's ok. Video quality when viewed on a 50Inch widescreen t.v., while obviously from a computer, is much better than I expected. In fact, quite tolerable.
A word of caution, the Griffin Itrip FM transmitters WILL NOT WORK with the new Ipods. Found that one out the hard way, even when Apple's web site sold me something "completely comapatible". Those are the only complaints. This things is the coolest gadget out there. Nothing else can touch it. Really amazing device.

Posted by dzignguy on October 24, 2005 at 4:32 PM (PDT) Comment 64

Dzignguy you said that your Ipod will only last for 7 hours only seems like it becuase the battery metter is off.
I just recived my IPOD on sunday and this is my third I have owned, 3rd gen 20gb, 4th gen 20gb, and now I own this white 30gb Ipod video. It is the cooliest thing for $300. In pictures it is ugly but you need to see it and then you can judge. It is very light and plays videos perfecly. I give it 4.5 stars

Posted by AC1Rider on October 24, 2005 at 6:03 PM (PDT) Comment 65
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