Cool. A much better idea to have one dock with adaptors instead of having many different docks.

Also, isn't dock adaptor #1 for the 3G ipod exactly the same in size to dock adaptor #4 for the b&w 4G ipod? My housemate has been using my 3G dock without any problems for fit with her 4G B&W ipod.

My last question would be, is there any chance that the apple remote and the universal dock, connected to the pc via usb, would control itunes for a pc/mac? This would be awesome.

Posted by camson on October 22, 2005 at 1:34 AM (PDT) Comment 1

I actually like the fact that the remote is IR rather than RF. I use a universal remote control (a Philips Pronto TSU7000). I use this remote for controlling all my equipment. I can program macros with it, so with one button press, I can have it turn on my system, configure my preamp/receiver to the correct input, turn on the TV, set the TV to the correct input, etc. With this universal remote, I can teach it the Apple remote's IR commands (or better yet, get the IR commands from somewhere else). Thus, I'm really glad the Apple remote does not use RF, since RF is not something that universal remotes can learn.

Nevertheless, not having RF isn't a great big deal. In general, most users will likely be in the same room as the dock, so IR would work fine. For me, I can teach the Pronto the Apple remote's IR, and then the Pronto can send out proprietary RF signals, which will then be converted to IR using a Pronto RF to IR converter (RFX6500) residing next to the Apple dock, and then the IR can then be transmitted to the dock, but that's another long story.

Posted by randyman on October 22, 2005 at 6:14 AM (PDT) Comment 2

Does anyone know how easy it is to switch dock adaptors? i would like to use this with my 3g ipod and my mini.

Posted by tecstar on October 22, 2005 at 1:11 PM (PDT) Comment 3

Just to be sure, is it possible to access your iPod while it is docked? If I wanted to play music from my iPod through my computer speakers, would it be possible? The only reason I'd buy the remote would be so I could change songs from across the room rather than going over to my computer and hitting "next" on say Winamp or iTunes. Is this now a feasible possibility for me?

Posted by shaked on October 22, 2005 at 5:29 PM (PDT) Comment 4

Would it be theoretically possible to use the dock with a 5G with an iSkin or Icewear or some equivalent? I only mention this because, without the adapter, it appears as though the iPod + skin may fit.

Posted by timeconsumer on October 22, 2005 at 6:10 PM (PDT) Comment 5

Unlike the Kensington Stereo Dock, you can't simultaneously play music through your stereo and charge your iPod with this item. Plus, the Apple Dock and Remote is more expensive.

Posted by RBOConnor on October 22, 2005 at 7:59 PM (PDT) Comment 6

Hi, i was wondering if anyone had a picture fo the ipod nano in this dock,and if anyone does could you please send it to me at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).

Posted by heello on October 23, 2005 at 12:54 AM (PDT) Comment 7

The remote basically is a replacement for the top-mounted remote (compatible with the previous gen and below), but with IR, if you use a 5th gen iPod

Posted by aafuss on October 23, 2005 at 4:07 AM (PDT) Comment 8

Does the nano sit to the side in the dock, or is it straight?

Posted by heello on October 23, 2005 at 8:24 AM (PDT) Comment 9

jeremy - i currently use the nyko connector to my home stereo for my ipod. i think the sound is great, but it does not charge my ipod while playing. can you tell me how the sound of this universal dock compares with the nyko connector (along with the kensington console) & if this universal dock can both play from the stereo AND charge at the same time (like the kensington)? thanks!

Posted by boochydog on October 23, 2005 at 9:35 AM (PDT) Comment 10

Dear Author;

Does the mini out have an optical component? Also, does the dock have a true line-out (and vary the volume by attenuation) or is it just a headphone jack with the associated noise.

You Grateful Reader

Posted by sandifop on October 23, 2005 at 10:10 AM (PDT) Comment 11

Hey RBOConnor,

are you sure that you can't charge and listen to the iPod at the same time through the apple dock? Or is it the case that you just can't sync and play at the same time?

Posted by iPodCaesar on October 23, 2005 at 11:13 AM (PDT) Comment 12

"Unlike the Kensington Stereo Dock, you can’t simultaneously play music through your stereo and charge your iPod with this item. Plus, the Apple Dock and Remote is more expensive."

so wrong. since when can u not charge it and play music from it? i do it all the time in my mini dock.

"Hey RBOConnor,

are you sure that you can’t charge and listen to the iPod at the same time through the apple dock? Or is it the case that you just can’t sync and play at the same time? "

i think thats tru, u cant sync the ipod, and expect it to play at the same time, but charging and syncing are two different things.

Posted by ipodlova on October 23, 2005 at 12:58 PM (PDT) Comment 13

I wonder if; without any adapter, I might be able to fit my 4G 60GB Colour with Agent18 case? (24mm x 67mm)

Posted by MadBob on October 23, 2005 at 1:50 PM (PDT) Comment 14

As MadBob and timeconsumer mentioned, it would make sense for someone to sell adapters that would allow the dock to be used with iPods with some of the skins or thinner cases. I have a 20GB color w/ the Agent18 clickshield and would love to have this option..

Posted by Ron R on October 25, 2005 at 11:27 AM (PDT) Comment 15

There is one "gotcha" with the remote that I sure didn't know about. You cannot navigate the iPod in any way with the remote.

You only get playback funtionality. Period, that's it. Which means that you can't switch playlists, or select another eq setting, or browse photos. Nothing interactive with the iPod menus. No navigation whatsoever.

Press play on the remote and your iPod will start playing from the beginning of your library - or if you have shuffle songs turned on it will randomly start playing your entire library. That's it. Thats's what you get for $29.99

While I am please with the iPod video and the universal dock - the remote is very dissapointing.

Posted by dferrell on October 26, 2005 at 5:31 AM (PDT) Comment 16

Does anyone know if the 60GB 5G iPod fits in the docking station that was released for the 4G photo iPod, and will the docking station's S-Video out work with the 5G's video?


Posted by randyman on October 28, 2005 at 3:23 AM (PDT) Comment 17 have the dock adapter, right? The 20GB 4G adapter's dock connecter is off, but the larger 40GB adapter works...but not as exact as the 5G's. You'd only notice by pressing the buttons on the iPod while docked.

Posted by Gordy. on November 3, 2005 at 7:23 AM (PDT) Comment 18

I've found that my mp4 videos made for PSP with Kaisakura's iPSP program all work perfectly with my 5G iPod. I've also had success with Forty-Two DVD-VX Plus. The nice thing about these programs is that they don't require knowing the technical aspects- You click and convert. They even do .vob files with no problem.

Posted by Wilder_K_Wight on November 5, 2005 at 5:49 PM (PDT) Comment 19

Ugh. Wrong forum...
Pertaining to the dock: I can see this sitting next to my HDTV, and the iPod might just serve as a TV viewer for my downloaded video connection. Apple's pretty smart. I don't need to pay for a DVR- I can see a future where I just download episodes of my favorite shows and watch them on TV via the iPod. The benefit over the computer or a DVR? It goes in my pocket.

Posted by Wilder_K_Wight on November 5, 2005 at 5:53 PM (PDT) Comment 20

Is it possible to output the Now Playing screen for music to a TV with Universal Dock connected via AV cable?

Posted by ginswizzle on November 6, 2005 at 1:13 AM (PDT) Comment 21

If you take the new dock apart you find that it contains a WM8758 codec, the same chip used in 5G and nano iPods. This leads me to suppose that the dock is actually doing d/a conversion as that is how they implement volume control. I guess this means that there is a digital output on the iPod connector.

Posted by beausoft on November 17, 2005 at 11:38 PM (PDT) Comment 22

You state in the review that the line out of the universal dock "replicates the headphone ports of color 4G and 5G iPods." Isn't this a big step back from the past docks? They had a true line out jack that had better sound quality than the headphone jack. Now, am I to understand that plugging the ipod into speakers via the headphone port will provide the same quality as plugging into speakers via the line out on the dock?

Posted by mpb2000 on November 20, 2005 at 1:35 AM (PDT) Comment 23

he means only when you use the remote you can higher or lower the volume

Posted by jitaroo on November 21, 2005 at 3:40 AM (PDT) Comment 24

Yes, I believe that being able to adjust the volume means that it is not a true line out. Just want to check with the reviewer, as this is very disappointing.

Posted by mpb2000 on November 27, 2005 at 12:32 AM (PDT) Comment 25
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