what no album art? thumbs down

Posted by ~ruindpzzle on August 17, 2006 at 9:04 AM (PDT) Comment 1

you’ll be limited to whichever TV is within cabled distance of your router

^not necessarily, if you have an ethernet based wireless adapter its no problem :D

Posted by nojok3 on August 17, 2006 at 9:14 AM (PDT) Comment 2

As with anything Griffin produces that requires even minimal software interface, such as the software/firmware used for the TV screen prompts, you can consider it second-rate at best. Griffin has no clue how to write software effectively. Anyone that has purchased their others software driven products (most now defunct) can attest to this statement. If it has no such interface then I recommend said Griffin product; if not—now way, no how.

Posted by FahrenheiPod 451 on August 17, 2006 at 12:45 PM (PDT) Comment 3

I pre-ordered this back in March 2006 when the price for the Tunecenter w/ Wi-fi was only $99.00. The company is still honoring that price, however, I am still waiting for it to ship. It is now the end of August 2006. I hope this thing isn't obsolete by the time I get it. I probably wouldn't have purchased it at the $149.00 price point, but the $99 is looking like a great deal now.

Posted by mikef2005 on August 17, 2006 at 2:53 PM (PDT) Comment 4

FahrenheiPod 451, I hope that's not the case here. The code for the TV screen stuff should be Code-Writing 101. Are they THAT bad?

I would have got the DLO, but there were too many reports about menu glitches in those things. I'm counting on this one.

Please review ASAP, iLounge!

Posted by icantpod on August 18, 2006 at 9:52 AM (PDT) Comment 5

I wonder if you are able to hook this up to an Airport Express portable wifi (not the extereme base station) and achieve the coveted wifi ability that Griffin had fallen short to deliver?

Also, are there any plans for Griffin to deliver a complete wifi version of the TuneCenter?

I have anxiously waited for this product to arrive into the hands of an iLounge reviewer and somewhat disappointed of what was promised by Griffin. Anyways, please do a thorough review of a wifi setup mentioned in my post.

Posted by s_i_t_h_l_o_r_d on August 18, 2006 at 10:49 AM (PDT) Comment 6

It's still not shipping on the web site. So who actually has it?

Posted by TechnoCat on August 18, 2006 at 5:50 PM (PDT) Comment 7

I concur with FehrenheiPod. Griffin is utterly and completely incompetent when it comes to writing software for the Mac, and rather then fix problems, they just keep introducing new products in the hope that no one will notice, abandoning previous products willy nilly. For example, take the once ballyhooed "PowerMate" controller. It has never worked properly with fast user switching - when multiple accounts are logged in (one or more switched out) the software goes completely haywire because it continues to run in all the accounts, all of them responding to the actions of the controller at the same time. It would be downright comical except that I paid money for it. Fast user switching was introduced in 10.3. We are well into 10.4, going on 10.5 now. They still haven't gotten it fixed, and there is absolutely no indication that they ever will. They either are incapable of fixing it, or they just don't care. Probably both. There's a lot more money to be made selling new products then there is making older products work. I strongly recommend against any Griffin product that requires software. Having said that, I don't know if the Tunecenter is in the same class since they aren't writing software that runs on the iPod. It may be that this is the type of product they can make. However, I, for one, am not going to risk any of my money on it. It may work now, but will it work with some future model of iPod?

Posted by sjonke on August 22, 2006 at 5:52 AM (PDT) Comment 8

I should have said "but will it work with some future model of iPod or even just a future firmware upgrade to an existing model?" Because it's not just new iPods that might require updates by Griffin, but even a change in a firmware update could require it. History has shown that Griffin is more interested in putting out new products than in supporting existing ones. So... with Griffin, "you pays your money and you takes your chances."

Posted by sjonke on August 22, 2006 at 6:56 AM (PDT) Comment 9

i returned my homedock deluxe because i was having the same screen glitches that everybody's been having. So my plan was to wait and see what would happen first: would DLO release a fix or would the Tune Center come out first. Well, don't know if DLO has fixed the screen glitch yet, so I just went to Circuit City and got a TuneCenter.

The screen is decent quality (text is easy to read and all) but the interface is pretty boring. But you can't change any settings. The screen is what it is. The fact that there’s no screensaver worries me. I just got a nice new plasma and if i see one trace of burn in on that thing...somebody at Griffin's gonna get it from me bad. Screen and stuff aside, I was really disappointed with the remote. Really crappy IR reception (have to move your hand all around to find that perfect line of site and push buttons like 3 times before anything happens).

Anyway, i'm pretty disappointed. The HomeDock Deluxe had some screen glitches, yeah...but i’m sure DLO will fix that soon and when they do, then the HomeDock Deluxe has Griffin beat hands DOWN. I think it looks better on my receiver and way more customizable options. So, it’s back to the store with the Tune Center and back to my wiating game for DLO.

Waiting sucks.

Posted by segment_1 on August 24, 2006 at 11:34 AM (PDT) Comment 10

Sigh. iPods have been around for years, yet we STILL don't have a really top-notch dock with TV-navigable menu. Such an OBVIOUS thing.


Posted by icantpod on August 24, 2006 at 1:04 PM (PDT) Comment 11

It has come to our attention at Griffin Technology that some of our TuneCenters have shipped with a remote control that makes it difficult to use unless aimed at a specific angle.

We have since addressed this issue and all new TuneCenters are shipping with the revised remote.

If you believe you have a first-edition remote that is not functioning properly, please contact Customer Service so we can exchange the remote for a new one.

We apologize for any inconvenience,

Griffin Technology

Posted by Griffin Technology on August 24, 2006 at 6:26 PM (PDT) Comment 12

Notice: Based on suspicion of comment fraud, a handful of comments relating to the Griffin TuneCenter and its competitor DLO HomeDock Deluxe have been closed. To summarize the TuneCenter comments, several readers have reiterated concerns originally noted in the review (screen saver, included A/V cable, interface) and commented on issues with their remote controls. Additional concerns have been expressed about HomeDock Deluxe interface problems.

Comment fraud and attacks by one company on another company's products are unacceptable forms of conduct on iLounge. Individuals engaging in these practices will be banned. Please keep comments regarding issues with different products (e.g. HomeDock Deluxe) in their respective reviews.

Posted by Jeremy Horwitz on August 27, 2006 at 9:57 AM (PDT) Comment 13

I just setup my Tunecenter yesterday. I previously had the DLO homedock deluxe and returned it. Several flaky items as others noted on this website, but main problem was with playlists that would not display their contents.

As others, I'm a bit disappointed with the Tunecenter.

2 main issues
1) Unit doesn't respond too well to the remote. Possible I have the first-edition, but looking at it I can't really tell in spite of the posted photos at Griffin.
However, one problem occured today as I attempted to turn the unit on - it would not respond. Pulling out the plug and then back on and the unit then responded when I used the remote to turn it on.
2) You are at the screen that shows the song playing and elapsed time, etc. Now you go back one step in the menu. This would be the list of songs (you can go back further, say to the Playlists with the same issue I am going to describe). If you are just looking and don't choose anything you can't go forward to the song playing screen for the song that was in process UNLESS you highlight that song on the Playlist.
What I would have liked was that the > button on the direction wheel would go to the currently playing song (I think it actually would then restart the song not keep playing from its current position) OR minimally there was a timeout with no activity and automatically jumped to that screen.

I think on the DLO using the buttons I could get to the current song, but what I disliked about the DLO was if the screen saver came on and you press a button to get out of the screen saver, instead of staying in the currently playing screen, it would jump back to the main menu - this was a pain.

Posted by Keith Cannataro on August 30, 2006 at 11:22 PM (PDT) Comment 14

Well decided I could not wait for the wireless version and as my modem is in the main room it was no problem to ethernet it up.

What's good?
Being able to control the iPod from anywhere in the room. Internet radio. Nice design. Good sound (I have not had this buzzing, but then I use the multimedia center to control volume, not the docking station). Easy to setup and simple to use.

What's bad?
iPod control only as long as you are pointing the remote control directly at the docking station. I have a second edition remote and it is pretty bad, however I have loaded the codes into my all-in-one, and it works very well.

No menus or memory slots to get to the internet radio station you want quickly. I listen to UK's Virgin Radio, and it's right at the end of the list...takes 5 minutes of button pressing to get there.

No way of changing the screensaver time.

If you unplug your iPod from the center and put it aside, the iPod does not switch itself off and stays on until the battery runs out! You must switch off the iPod when undocking.

They have taken off any reference in the website of upgraded firmware, which makes me wonder if we will ever get this.

It does it's job...but I do feel like the guy who has been promised a BMW company car, and instead has been given a Ford Focus...It's a shame.

Posted by Boca on September 1, 2006 at 12:06 PM (PDT) Comment 15

To Keith...If you wait, the screen does eventually jump back to show what's now playing.
You have to wait a minute or so though, and as you said you cannot force it to go to that screen.

Another issue...I HATE not having the option of controlling the iPod with the iPod's own controls. Sometimes it is convenient to do so.
However to do this you have to first dock the iPod, (Which means you lose control of the iPod touch wheel), then switch on the dock and the TV to see what's going on and ensure that the docking station is indeed powered up (there is no indicator on the dock). Then press the 'Video' button on the remote and switch off the television. NOW you have regained control of the iPod.

Surely there can be an easier way of having dual control?

Posted by Boca on September 1, 2006 at 12:19 PM (PDT) Comment 16

I spent some time talking to support.

Screen is supposed to fade at 5 minutes and go to black at 10 minutes. This only happens if you have the ethernet plugged in. I tried just a cable with only one end plugged into the back, but this doesn't cause it to work, so I assume it needs to notice an internet connection.

Boca - I'll recheck, but I don't think the screen jumps back to show what's now playing. Maybe that also works only with an ethernet cable attached. Since you mention you use the internet radio, I suspect if you disconnect the ethernet cable you will get the same results as me?

I have also been told that the TuneCenter is supposed to be able to be updated through the ethernet cable and computer.

I too have setup the TuneCenter to work with a Logitech Harmony 880 universal remote. I haven't played with that setup much yet, but when it was setup with the DLO Homedock, the Harmony was much stronger at controlling the functions.

Posted by Keith Cannataro on September 4, 2006 at 10:40 PM (PDT) Comment 17

I bought a TuneCenter for $85 at J&R in New York. Great concept but unfortunately there is one killer flaw: THE SOUND QUALITY IS HORRIBLE.

I didn't experience the buzzing problem, but I do hear really bad clipping even when the Tunecenter is turned up to max and I control the volume on my Receiver as Griffin recommends.

This is a big shame. I bought the Tunecenter to let me enjoy using my iPod with a nice home theater AV system. But I find I get better sound quality through an RCA to mini cable.

Maybe the sound is ok if you play it through your TV's speakers. But if you plan to listen through a decent stereo I'd look for something else.

Posted by kronkite on November 9, 2006 at 8:48 AM (PDT) Comment 18

S_i_t_h_l_o_r_d: If you hook up the airport express to the griffin homedock, you have just duplicated its function, so there is no point. But yes, it will work.

Posted by anti-luddite on November 12, 2006 at 9:43 AM (PDT) Comment 19

I know it's minor, but I'd be disappointed that the pictured iPod used as the TuneCenter "wallpaper" isn't the same as mine. It looks like a 4G, which seems downright old-fashioned compared to my larger-screened 5G. grin

Posted by scottrussell on November 22, 2006 at 3:06 PM (PDT) Comment 20
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