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Does the gapless playback work with LAME encoded MP3s or will it require you to rip your CDs from within iTunes? LAME adds metadata needed for gapless playback, and it works really well in recent versions of WinAmp.

Posted by phennphawcks on September 12, 2006 at 2:53 PM (PDT) Comment 1

So are the software changes just something origina 5G owners can get with an IPOD update??

Posted by Andy_B on September 12, 2006 at 3:38 PM (PDT) Comment 2

Do the 640x480 videos on the iTMS play on existing 5G iPods?

Posted by sky7i on September 12, 2006 at 5:13 PM (PDT) Comment 3

"So are the software changes just something origina 5G owners can get with an IPOD update??"

Yes and no. I just updated my iPod and I have brightness and the letters of the alphabet superimposed over the menus thing, but no search as far as I can tell. It also looks like the new games will work.

Posted by crazybrit44 on September 12, 2006 at 6:56 PM (PDT) Comment 4

Man, I must be absolutely stupid or something. How are we supposed to use the search feature? Is this feature only for the new iPods and not for the older 40GB iPods? I have updated my iPod with the latest firmware update acquired just this evening. I just can't figure out how to use the search feature.

Posted by Dave Metzener on September 12, 2006 at 6:57 PM (PDT) Comment 5

I honestly hope I will be able to use the search feature on my legacy 5G, I've been dying for a feature like this... I paid $349 for my iPod not too long ago. It would be highly unfair for Apple to reserve the new features for its supposedly 'enhanced' 5G.
If Apple doesn't release an updated firmware for my legacy 5G that includes the features of the new 5G I will seriously write an imflamatory email to Apple's cutomer support group...
Don't you guys think this is so unfair?

Syldaril.

Posted by Syldaril on September 12, 2006 at 7:50 PM (PDT) Comment 6

The new features are great, I just hope it doesn't take them another five years to get around to adding graphic EQ.

Posted by fondy44 on September 12, 2006 at 9:20 PM (PDT) Comment 7

@Syldaril:
Actually, considering Apple's actions in the past (which may have been technically justifiable), I was pleasantly surprised to hear that any of these new features worked on the original 5th gen. Think of the poor saps who dropped loads of money on accessories for 4th gen and older iPods, only to have them become obsolete when the 5th gen was unveiled.

Posted by fondy44 on September 12, 2006 at 9:28 PM (PDT) Comment 8

Maybe I'm the only one wondering but will the software update on the 5th gen iPod affect the battery life on video playback or is the battery life extension only effected on the 5.5 gen iPods?

Posted by lostxi on September 12, 2006 at 9:42 PM (PDT) Comment 9

my theory is that the only reason why the battery life is improved for video playback is that now you can adjust the backlight brightness, whereas before video was always played at the brightest level. Could it be that the increase comes from bringing the brightness down all the way while watching video? If so, wouldn't the only difference between a 5.5G and a 5G (with software update) the search feature?

Posted by gotim on September 12, 2006 at 10:02 PM (PDT) Comment 10

I read on the tech page of the new 5G ipod that you can use firewire in addition to USB to charge it. I was wondering if you can use firewire to download also?

Posted by badspartan on September 12, 2006 at 10:04 PM (PDT) Comment 11

Apple has a habit of upgrading its hardware in such a way that screws the early adopters and closes off upgrade paths.

But it rarely does this with software. It's exciting to me, but not surprising, that they were able to get around some of the major gripes (low res video, playback with gaps, etc) as well as add substantial new features (the sexy, cheap games -- yeah, $5 is cheap, that's what Verizon charges me for Tetris per freakin' month) without cutting anybody off. I'm now able to create 640x480 MP4 videos and put them on my iPod (720x480 didn't work) and that excites me a little.

Those 640x480 videos look much better when played back on the tv versus the old 320x240. If only H.264 video didn't suck so much, maybe the iTMS movie download service would take on the world!

Posted by dasmegabyte on September 12, 2006 at 10:24 PM (PDT) Comment 12

I"m sorry but can the original video Ipods play the 640x480 format? (or will they with a firmware update)

Posted by mooney101 on September 12, 2006 at 11:10 PM (PDT) Comment 13

Well, at least 80GB is going in the right direction (bigger, BIGGER); as much as I want to hold off until the 6G arrives, I think the upgrades are worth picking up another 5G...especially since my 60GB's HD is already stuffed full, and it could probably use an upgraded battery anyways (6 1/2 to 7 hrs max with music--and no backlight).

Posted by flatline response on September 12, 2006 at 11:17 PM (PDT) Comment 14

the longer battery life is probably due to more buffer memory (ram if you will)all data goes from the hard drive to a buffer (I believe it is flash based) to keep it from skipping with movement and to up battery life (the spinning of the drive is the biggest battery killer). I would guess with flash memory being so much cheaper now, they probably upped the buffer (doubled I would guess).

Posted by vic6string on September 12, 2006 at 11:29 PM (PDT) Comment 15

So no search on older 5g?
How it is accessed on this new ipod? There is a search field in the music menu?

Posted by MOMAtteo79 on September 13, 2006 at 2:46 AM (PDT) Comment 16

I'd really like the search to be enabled, but my main worry is whether or not the gapless playback is a hardware or firmware upgrade.

Not to mention the extra 20 gigs for $50 less than what I paid last year.

Posted by j0shb3ck3r on September 13, 2006 at 10:52 AM (PDT) Comment 17

Where are the files to update the ipod?

Posted by farley33 on September 13, 2006 at 11:59 AM (PDT) Comment 18

Has anyone noticed after installing the ipod update, when you search quickly through the artists a big letter appears to show what part of the alphabet are you on??? has anyone noticed this, and is there a way to do it without having it appear randomly?

Posted by Johnaguer X on September 13, 2006 at 11:59 AM (PDT) Comment 19

Does anyone know what serial numbers had the new screen pre-show? I picked up my 30-gig 5G three weeks ago from Amazon. I'm willing to eat the extra thirty bucks on the price if I got the new screen, but I'll be seriously disappointed if not. How do I know?

Posted by Elmer McCurdy on September 13, 2006 at 1:39 PM (PDT) Comment 20

I have a feeling that the "true video iPod" will be released in a couple of months. They did the same thing a little over a year ago. I had filled up my 4GB iPod mini, and when they released the color versions of the 4th Gen iPod I bought one. A couple of months later they released the 5th Gen iPod. I think they did this on purpose, so people like me would be just past the point of being able to exchange the iPod for a new one.

Posted by manders4000 on September 13, 2006 at 1:56 PM (PDT) Comment 21

Question -- I have an unopened 60GB 5G that my brother picked up for me as part of the student bundle. So I'd pay $179 for the thing. Should I just have him return it, and suck up the extra money to get this one? What do you guys think -- is it worth it for the upgrade?

Posted by Gatsby03 on September 13, 2006 at 2:58 PM (PDT) Comment 22

Second question -- what features does upgrading the previous 5G iPod to Software version 1.2 get you? The search function? Better battery function? Anything at all?

This might help me solve my problem from my last post.

Posted by Gatsby03 on September 13, 2006 at 4:02 PM (PDT) Comment 23

Ok...now I'm ticked. I'm not sure if it was the update or not, but now my iPod locks up after a few seconds. The music will play, but I cannot access any screens. What the HECK!!! If anyone can help, please do!!!

Posted by bigdog5142 on September 14, 2006 at 9:17 AM (PDT) Comment 24

I've looked at the specs for the new iPod on apple.com and the "extras" menu seems to be missing the "voice memos" feature that allowed you to record audio with the previous edition of the fifth-generation iPod. Does this mean that the new iPod now no longer has this capability?

Posted by percypage on September 14, 2006 at 2:04 PM (PDT) Comment 25
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