I have a feeling that the "true video iPod" will be released in a couple of months. They did the same thing a little over a year ago. I had filled up my 4GB iPod mini, and when they released the color versions of the 4th Gen iPod I bought one. A couple of months later they released the 5th Gen iPod. I think they did this on purpose, so people like me would be just past the point of being able to exchange the iPod for a new one.

Posted by manders4000 on September 13, 2006 at 1:56 PM (PDT) Comment 21

Question -- I have an unopened 60GB 5G that my brother picked up for me as part of the student bundle. So I'd pay $179 for the thing. Should I just have him return it, and suck up the extra money to get this one? What do you guys think -- is it worth it for the upgrade?

Posted by Gatsby03 on September 13, 2006 at 2:58 PM (PDT) Comment 22

Second question -- what features does upgrading the previous 5G iPod to Software version 1.2 get you? The search function? Better battery function? Anything at all?

This might help me solve my problem from my last post.

Posted by Gatsby03 on September 13, 2006 at 4:02 PM (PDT) Comment 23 I'm ticked. I'm not sure if it was the update or not, but now my iPod locks up after a few seconds. The music will play, but I cannot access any screens. What the HECK!!! If anyone can help, please do!!!

Posted by bigdog5142 on September 14, 2006 at 9:17 AM (PDT) Comment 24

I've looked at the specs for the new iPod on and the "extras" menu seems to be missing the "voice memos" feature that allowed you to record audio with the previous edition of the fifth-generation iPod. Does this mean that the new iPod now no longer has this capability?

Posted by percypage on September 14, 2006 at 2:04 PM (PDT) Comment 25

Does the new nano 4G have the option of adjusting the brightness as well?

Posted by oneteen on September 14, 2006 at 3:25 PM (PDT) Comment 26

Hey guys. Go over to the Apple forum: and see that there are problems with the upgrade. For the time being, do not upgrade your iPods. They will break. If anyone at iLounge can verify this, please help out.

Posted by Don Trammell on September 15, 2006 at 1:02 PM (PDT) Comment 27

I had no problems at all with this upgrade. I suggest everybody do it as soon as possible. The feature enhancements are well worth it.

Posted by dasmegabyte on September 15, 2006 at 2:51 PM (PDT) Comment 28


This sounds a bit fishy to me as there are several forums over at Apple that are complaining about the update. You seem to be the only one that is not having a problem. Not to say that you are not credible but it is a bit strange that you are the only one to date not having this problem. Hopefully iLounge will be able to check their sources and see if this is true.

Posted by Don Trammell on September 15, 2006 at 3:25 PM (PDT) Comment 29

I haven't had any problems, either. I updated iTunes, Quicktime, and then my 60 GB iPod 5G.

I've been using my iPod continuously since the update, and have had no problems with video, podcasts, or music.

The gapless playback feature is really great.

Search only works after I've scrolled quickly down the menu about halfway, which sort of makes it useless (I believe that the "new" 5G models have a search item in the menu, which makes sense).

I now have a brightnes menu item, too, but my display is no brighter at maximum than it ever was. I suppose I could reduce the backlight brightness if I wanted to, however.

Had I read these posts prior to the update, I would have waited.

Posted by Michael Cornett on September 15, 2006 at 6:38 PM (PDT) Comment 30

@Michael Cornett,

WIth all things being equal and with the mega forums out there on Apple, would you recommend waiting until Apple sorts things out or would you simply go for broke and upgrade?

Posted by Don Trammell on September 15, 2006 at 7:21 PM (PDT) Comment 31

Hey guys

Should I buy 5G,IPOD U2 30Gb now or wait for the new ipod 6G? I prefer a style of black back and red click wheel in U2. Btw,I think I dont use much about searching feature in the new ipod5.5G.

If I buy 5G ipod, and connect to the new itune. It will automatically update new feature like in 5.5G ipod right?

Tony BKK

Posted by Tony De Bkk on September 16, 2006 at 12:19 AM (PDT) Comment 32

Dude, have you read the post I made? There are serious problems with this upgrade and you still want to do it? Well good luck with it. Just in case you missed it:

Posted by Don Trammell on September 16, 2006 at 3:05 AM (PDT) Comment 33


Like I said in my original posting, I would not have updated my iPod had I read this thread first. I updated the first day, and haven't had any problems.

Again, I would not have done so had I read this thread. Lots of people are having serious problems with iPods and iTunes following the updates.


Posted by Michael Cornett on September 16, 2006 at 5:59 AM (PDT) Comment 34

Updated my early 60GB 5G to problems whatsoever so far. Plays fine, transfers fine, seems to play nice with iT7.

Bummed that it can't search, however; would've brought to this 5G the one redeeming feature I actually DO miss from the Nomad Zen (aside from its great sound). Guess I'll have to rough it until the 80GB shows up.

Posted by flatline response on September 17, 2006 at 12:27 AM (PDT) Comment 35

just to fully explain my understanding of the extra battery life: i have little doubt that the extra video battery life is due to the screen brightness. notice how there's a half mark on the brightness meter of new 5g, but not the old 5g? after I upgraded, the old 5g defaulted to the brightest setting, but the new 5g defaulted to the half mark.

i went from an old 5g 30gb to a new 5g 30gb. i sold my old 5g on eBay before the announcement in anticipation of a new 40gb iPod, but unfortunately that didn't happen. i didn't want the expense or weight of the 80gb, so i picked up the new 30gb. overall, not worth the cost (search feature being the real main difference), but i guess the new headphones, no scratches, and a renewed warranty are something to be happy about. gapless playback works in both.

anyway, 5g owners, i wouldn't upgrade unless you have a 60 and really need the extra 20 gigs.

Posted by kreg37 on September 17, 2006 at 9:51 AM (PDT) Comment 36

by the way, is anyone else pissed that apple didn't introduce a single-platter 40gb iPod? 40 and 80 just makes so much more sense. i would've really liked to have a small and light 40gb...

Posted by kreg37 on September 17, 2006 at 10:02 AM (PDT) Comment 37

There seems to be a lot of confusion between the early model 5th gen iPods and the latest offerings - and especially around what features can be integrated via iPod Updater to the early model 5th gens.

Someone else said it earlier: Apple has a way of "encouraging" people to upgrade to the latest model of iPods. This is usually by limiting features to older iPods. This was obvious with earlier generation iPods and the "Shuffle All Songs" features.

The major differentiator between pre-September 5th gen's and the new models are: longer battery life, brighter screens with brightness controls, search functionality, letter overlays while scrolling, and gapless playback.

Brightness controls, search functionality, and the letter overlays are software based features. The brightness controls appear to be slightly dependent on hardware as Apple had been including the newer LCD displays in more recent production runs of pre-September 5th gen iPods.

Pre-September iPods can be upgraded to iPodOS 1.2 which will give them the functionality to play the new ipg Game files downloadable from the iTunes Store, see the letter overlays while scrolling, and - in the case of a recent model screen - utilize the new brightness controls. They appear available, but as many have noticed, do not seem to affect the brightness of the display.

Not available in version 1.2 is the ability to use the Search Functionality on pre-September 5th gen iPods.

I have not been able to confirm the presence or functionality of gapless playback capabilities on pre-September 5th gen iPods with iPodOS 1.2.

Search is one of the features Apple is touting to encourage upgrades. The other is battery life. Battery life for enhanced 5th gen iPods is rated at 3.5 hours for video usage or longer at lower brightness settings, as stated by Jobs during his keynote. This suggests that the extended battery life is not based on brightness controls, but rather new hardware: either an extended capability battery or more efficient processors.

Also of importance to owners of older generation iPods is that none of these new features are usable on 3rd or 4th generation iPods or minis. I am not aware if the letter overlays while scrolling is present in new iPod Updates as I have not checked this function yet.

Posted by Brandon Iain on September 17, 2006 at 12:25 PM (PDT) Comment 38

I purchased a 8GB nano yesterday, when I first powered it up, I noticed a buzzing noise coming from it, I thought naybe it was the screen backlight, But it wasn't, I returned it to the apple store and they said it must be defective, they handed me another one, so before I left I opened it up, to find that the new one did the same thing, we then checked all the display models they had, and all of them were buzzing if you put it up to your ear, I check my 2Gb 1 Gen model and there was no noise at all, Just thought I would let you guys know.


Posted by benetton on September 17, 2006 at 12:26 PM (PDT) Comment 39

Ok how about if Microsoft grab 30% share from apple because there wasn't such enhancements on new 5.5G ipods. But only 80GB version with lower price and bright screen. I doubt if Apple will have same costumers response on christmas holidsays. Peoples will go with better deal like Zune which offer bigger screen and it will wifi enable and also Microsoft will offer monthely subscriptions service and Zune may have better battery life than ipod. I seen apple policy to many years not to offer longer battery life but only on new nano which can't play movies and video games.

Posted by Eskay on September 17, 2006 at 3:27 PM (PDT) Comment 40

iLounge states that one of the "Cons" is that the 2.5" screen of the iPod is "still" too small for long-term video watching, and yet they also nag on the iPod nano for not having video playback, and the nano has an even smaller screen! What the hell's the point of that?!

Posted by Cad on September 17, 2006 at 4:29 PM (PDT) Comment 41

Brandon, I'd have to say you're wrong about the battery life. It's not due to an enhanced battery, as an enhanced battery would have boosted other functions besides just video. And I highly doubt that any amount of more efficient processing is going to give the iPod 1.5 more hours of video battery life. And the gapless playback worked flawlessly on my older 5th gen ipod.

Posted by kreg37 on September 17, 2006 at 9:21 PM (PDT) Comment 42

Cad: We haven't "nagged" on the nano for lacking video playback, we've just noted that it's not a feature.

Posted by Jeremy Horwitz on September 18, 2006 at 6:59 AM (PDT) Comment 43

I have limited resources in the financial department, so I haven't updated my iPod since the version that had the four buttons above the click wheel (2G?). I hunger for the video iPod, and have been patiently waiting for the unbeatable version because I won't be able to upgrade for a few more years. I realize no one knows when a better model is on the horizon, but based on previous announcements, when do they usually announce upgrades? Would it be at the Macworld Expo in early January? Is that when the iTV box is being released?

Posted by bookcase on September 18, 2006 at 7:21 AM (PDT) Comment 44

So here we are, one year on, and you lot wet yourselfs over a brighter bulb and a search function!

My 4G iPod is my second iPod, and my LAST iPod... NEVER again Apple.

I don't like being screwed every 6-12 months, and what am I being screwed by? A feature that should be a simple firmware update to MOST iPods. I get it Apple, make a new feature in your firmware, and some money-grabbing suit says, "ok, lets call it the next gen iPod" oh my god... NEVER again Apple.

Posted by Stimpy on September 18, 2006 at 6:13 PM (PDT) Comment 45
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