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My AE should arrive today, according to my tracking no. I want to hook it up to a pair of Bose outdoor speakers for my patio. Can anyone recommend an inexpensive power amp or receiver with digital optical inputs that will be used *exclusively* to simply drive these speakers? (Meaning I don't want to spend a lot for features I won't be using.)

Posted by Paddy on July 17, 2004 at 5:14 AM (PDT)

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wellthis whole thoing looks good but im from the uk so i have too questions as every one do how much is it in pounds and when will it be in london ? cuase id like one and by the way does it work with i pod mini ?

Posted by dirty-devil on July 17, 2004 at 6:01 AM (PDT)

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I have a G4 Mac connected to the network via ethernet, but no airport or wireless card installed. I do have a wireless network running in my home (Proxim), do I need to add a wireless card to the Mac for this to work, or can it stream via wired ethernet to the AE if I have the AE connected via Ethernet to the network? Or is the ethernet port on the AE only to plug into a cable/dsl modem?

Posted by Hass on July 17, 2004 at 7:22 AM (PDT)

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Here are a few observations I haev seen using my AirPort Express:

1. There is no way to configure AE from Ehternet Port (I think this is a mistake). Mac or PC must have WIFI connection to configure.

2. I have a 3rd Party Access Point and understood that I could not use AE as repeater, but I still wanted to try client mode. There are multiple issues with this scenario.
- Setup is horribly difficult (After a day, I still can't get AE to find my existing router which is two feet away, I tried with router SSID hidden, visible, and with and without encryption) AE assistant requries you to pick network from dropdown, so you are out of luck if it does not find anything (no manual option). Also, switching between existing WIFI network and Airport network to configure is exhausting.
- Audio and USB ports work in Client Mode, but Network port is disabled (no bridging). this needs to be changed if possible. See support article for details - http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=108040

- Only one stream seems to be supported. I don't see any way to stream iTunes to more than one AE (ex: Stream to all rooms in the house).

- Range of AE is not great.

- I may be missing something, but I have not seen how to set AE to switch from Mixed/B/G network, to disable SSID broadcasting, or to tune AE range by restricting bandwidth.

- I do like that AE supports WEP and WPA encryption

- AE streaming sound quality and volume control using iTunes was good (no noticable difference from direct audio link to iPOD in my intial tests)

- I liked that sound would drop vs sacrificing sound quality.

Overall, I still like the idea of the AE, but it has some rough edges (local use of Ethernet port and general configuration improvements are my biggest gripes).

Posted by Jody on July 17, 2004 at 7:30 AM (PDT)

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Brad posted a question of great interest to me. Since no one answered, I'll repeat it:

Is 802.11b (i.e, the plain-vanilla AirPort card) enough to handle the bandwidth of Apple Lossless?

I would love to use the Aiport Express, but my G4 only accepts the first generation cards (which, btw, Apple no longer lists at their online store).

Posted by Rich on July 17, 2004 at 7:33 AM (PDT)

46

Sorry, I missed the AE Admin Util. Forget comments about tuning parameters.

Posted by Jody on July 17, 2004 at 8:44 AM (PDT)

47

Like steveb said earlier:

"My stereo and DSL connections are rooms apart"

Can the airport express still operate (as in do the assigned printing and music streaming jobs) without a DSL or cable modem attatched to its ethernet port?

THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT!

Posted by Greg on July 17, 2004 at 1:40 PM (PDT)

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Jeremy,

Re: "...AE is a print-ready wireless base station with a great novelty feature for iTunes fans..."

You have the primary and secondary features of this product inverted. It's plainly obvious from the features and marketing of this device that it's primary purpose is to provide a wireless conduit to stream music from iTunes to a stereo. That it acts as a print-ready wireless base station is the frosting, not the cake. Apple didn't set out to make a small 822.11 hub and then added the music streaming as a "novelty" feature.

Here's the proper product description: "A wireless iTunes streaming music receiver with wireless hub and print server features".

In that light, the product should be compared primarily with other streaming music receivers rather than cheap wireless hubs.

Posted by calstraycat on July 17, 2004 at 9:56 PM (PDT)

49

Fedex dropped the toy by on Friday. At work this week, so haven't had a chance to completely explore/troubleshoot. Belkin G router, XP notebook/desktop. Got it hooked up, but it wouldn't play nice with wep, had to resort to MAC whitelisting. Haven't got the extension thing to work, but realize its unsupported. Sounds great, can use the lappy in living room as a big remote, all songs on the desktop anyhow. Next step, get a prog that lets me use a bluetooth phone as a handheld remote.

Posted by DEK on July 17, 2004 at 10:49 PM (PDT)

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Paddy, the UK Apple Store are charging 99.01 pounds (yes, that's 1 pence... makes all the difference).

Here in Switzerland it is 199.00 CHF, which is under 90 pounds... Apple stuff and ciggies are cheaper here. That's just over 160 USD.

Posted by Stephen on July 18, 2004 at 3:12 AM (PDT)

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If you have a Mac and Bluetooth-enabled Clie, check this thread for a remote control of Airport Express:
http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?p=673922

Posted by sliberman in Austin, TX on July 18, 2004 at 5:36 AM (PDT)

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I too wanted to know this also, and yes, you can stream music and have wireless internet with an original airport card. This shows you all the technifications to the airport express. http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/specs.html

Posted by M Bargo in Chicago, IL on July 18, 2004 at 6:08 AM (PDT)

53

I am not comfortable with wireless, and thus after a weekend of trying, I cannot get the AE to recognize the PC. When going to "assistant", an error message pops up saying, "An error occured when trying to access the wireless networking sub system"
Using XP. Any suggestions ??

Posted by Davd on July 18, 2004 at 6:49 AM (PDT)

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The best remote for this would be a bluetooth mobile phone with Romeo. Music information on the phone would be incredible but now romeo just lets you change tracks, volume and I think thatīs it. I really think thatīs all you would need.

Posted by Agustin on July 18, 2004 at 6:52 AM (PDT)

55

I think the Remote problem could easily be solved using a VNC client on a wireless palm or pocketpc device.

Posted by Eon on July 18, 2004 at 8:22 AM (PDT)

56

I'm disappointed in this first version of Airtunes, though hugely excited when i first heard about it. I have all music on a dedicated G4TiBook physically plugged into my B&O hifi. What I expected to be able to do was to replace the cable with wifi and add multiple sets of speakers to flood the house with music.

This means being able to simultaneously stream music to multiple Airport Express devices. But seems like this isn't an option which I find really really annoying. Don't understand why.

Other on-line discussion groups have floundered with various technical reasons, none of which really adds up IMHO.

So I'll spend my 128 quid on more iTunes music and revisit Airtunes some other time.

Shame really.

Posted by Neil Fairbrother on July 18, 2004 at 8:26 AM (PDT)

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Running XP on PC. When beginning "assistant", error message "an error occurred when trying to access the wireless networking sub system" appeared. Following that, set up was impossible. Any suggestions ??

Posted by windog on July 18, 2004 at 9:11 AM (PDT)

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calstraycat, do you really think apple set out to make a device to stream itunes music to a stereo and then thought up the other parts later?

apple's own website: "wireless internet, printing, and itunes music streaming". not "itunes music streaming and some other stuff."

apple is a great company but even they could not convince people to buy a device that just did itunes streaming and nothing more. the ae has a stereo port, usb port and modem port for a reason, itunes itself would not cut it for anyone except people with crazy big music collections on their computers.

Posted by beefbox on July 18, 2004 at 4:51 PM (PDT)

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To respond to podo's comment, I'm one of those people who spends more time in a hotel room than I do at home. If you had any idea how many hotels have their desks right next to the air conditioner vents, you'd appreciate being able to easily set up a wireless connection. It's either the Express or carry around a 25 foot network cable, and the Express weighs less.

So it's wireless during the week and music streaming at home on the weekends. My Express arrived on Thursday and it's pretty slick.

Posted by zanshin on July 18, 2004 at 5:13 PM (PDT)

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Hell yea... I am going to use this at the hotels... I will carry it in my bag just like my power adapter. I haven't seen too much in the way of people using this as a small internet router, but it could be twice the price and I would still think it's a good deal. There is no 'G' AP with a small form factor and no external power adapter. The closest thing I have seen was the APC 802.11b AP but even it has a external power adapter. BRAVO APPLE!

Posted by Jack on July 18, 2004 at 6:33 PM (PDT)

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